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Do you have a spare nuclear power plant? Because Germany does not. The three still running have been run down over the last 10 years (as shut down was plannend

by patall 5y ago

Do you have a spare nuclear power plant? Because Germany does not. The three still running have been run down over the last 10 years (as shut down was plannend long term), those will not be run any longer. If you want to kill two bird with one stone, you better have a stone. Without one, you are screwed.

ianpurton 5y ago
I don't have a spare plant no. So if nuclear is the answer, Germany will need to see what it takes to reverse a long term shut down or build new.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  Or stop buying Russian energy and start buying French energy I think that Sweden burns garbage to warm houses. Maybe exploring it could be useful.
  - patall 5y ago
    Afaik, all European nations burn some of their garbage. Here is a list of German incinerators: https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/377/bilder/muellverbrennungsanlagen.png https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/37.... I think, the heat is barely used for warming houses, but then, most people don't want to have an incinerator in their neighborhood. The European power grid is very much already a thing and France exported 9.5 TWh of power to Germany last year (and imported 3.7TWh): https://energy-charts.info/charts/import_export/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&year=2021 https://energy-charts.info/charts/import_export/chart.htm?l=.... I think the cards a pretty much on the table at this point. What's left is various industry groups trying to get a bigger share of the to be invested money. Some think that the war won't last long enough for the next winter and as Russia 'has always delivered', it won't be an issue anyways. Also, there are still coal back-up plants. It wouldn't be nice but people will not die because of this.
mbar84 5y ago
Since it was a political decision to shut them down, it's hard for me as an outside observer to judge a statement that they've been "run down". Is there an independent assessment of the safety of the existing power plants, free from political influence?

by patall 5y ago

ianpurton 5y ago

I don't have a spare plant no. So if nuclear is the answer, Germany will need to see what it takes to reverse a long term shut down or build new.

pvaldes 5y ago
Or stop buying Russian energy and start buying French energy I think that Sweden burns garbage to warm houses. Maybe exploring it could be useful.
- patall 5y ago
  Afaik, all European nations burn some of their garbage. Here is a list of German incinerators: https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/377/bilder/muellverbrennungsanlagen.png https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/37.... I think, the heat is barely used for warming houses, but then, most people don't want to have an incinerator in their neighborhood. The European power grid is very much already a thing and France exported 9.5 TWh of power to Germany last year (and imported 3.7TWh): https://energy-charts.info/charts/import_export/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&year=2021 https://energy-charts.info/charts/import_export/chart.htm?l=.... I think the cards a pretty much on the table at this point. What's left is various industry groups trying to get a bigger share of the to be invested money. Some think that the war won't last long enough for the next winter and as Russia 'has always delivered', it won't be an issue anyways. Also, there are still coal back-up plants. It wouldn't be nice but people will not die because of this.

mbar84 5y ago

Since it was a political decision to shut them down, it's hard for me as an outside observer to judge a statement that they've been "run down". Is there an independent assessment of the safety of the existing power plants, free from political influence?