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Not trying to be difficult, but that font seems to have some historical implications we should rather not glorify.

by supercucklchaim 5y ago

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
What are you referring to?
- teddyh 5y ago
  The font is Blackletter, which was widely used in Europe, but specifically Germany kept using it until 1941, when Nazis abolished its use. But since Germans used the font, and nazis were German, people think that the font is bad, and should not be used. Similarly, since nazis tended to be clean-shaven and not grow beards, it is well-known that every right-thinking man today must grow a beard to avoid signalling their nazi sympathies.
  - lwf 5y ago
    Which doesn't even make sense, given it was abolished by Nazi Germany "when Hitler's distaste for the supposedly "Jewish-influenced" script saw it officially discontinued" (via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter)
  - micromacrofoot 5y ago
    wow this is the first i’ve heard of this and it’s very stupid
    - teddyh 5y ago
      Just to be clear, people being stupid about fonts is real, but my analogy about beards is meant to be an obvious joke to highlight the stupidity of such reasonings. I am not currently aware about anyone associating clean-shavenness with nazis, although it might only be a matter of time.
      - micromacrofoot 5y ago
        thanks for clarifying, but I have already heard some real “nazi haircut” discussion so you’re probably not far off! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/11/30/does-this-haircut-make-me-look-like-a-nazi/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/w...
  - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
    Interesting factoids about military facial hair to go with your joke: Moustaches were mandatory in the British army (and shaving them off a punishable offence) for about sixty years, up until the middle of the First World War, where the rule fell out of favour in no small part because too many of the new recruits were too young for anything more than peach fuzz. The Victorian trend for really big bushy beards emerged in part out of mass public admiration for British soldiers returning from the Crimean War, who had grown long beards to help cope with the extreme cold over a very long campaign, after Queen Victoria noted them with some admiration. Though it probably did land at a time where shaving was somewhat out of fashion.
  - daniel-cussen 5y ago
    Mmm...yeah so someone who learned German as a second language and knew a lot about the culture and history explained the toothbrush mustache, as worn by Adolf Hitler. "So it was because German elite airmen needed oxygen at the altitude at which they flew, within the airplane. I suppose because the cabin was not pressurized. They had to be able to get a good tight fit on the masks, so the only facial hair they could have was a toothbrush mustache, because that didn't make the mask leak. So in solidarity with elite airmen, to show they were just as masculine despite having so little facial hair, Hitler wore that mustache always."
MandieD 5y ago
Go learn a bit more history - the use of Blackletter/Fraktur was banned by the National Socialist government because it was "Jewish". Earlier Nazi posters and publications used it, but so did the Social Democrats (SPD - Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands) and even Communists (KPD - Kommunistiche Partei Deutschlands) - here are loads of examples, provided by a Social Democratic historical society (Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung)[0], and a very specific one - the edition of the "Vorwärts" announcing the abdication of the Kaiser (something the SPD was very excited about)[1]. Most older German books and newspapers, regardless of point of view, were typeset in Fraktur. [0]https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/friedrich-ebert-stiftung https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/friedrich-ebert-st... [1]https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/%E2%80%9Evorw%C3%A4rts%E2%80%9C-vom-9-november-1918-%E2%80%9Eder-kaiser-hat-abgedankt-%E2%80%9C/hwFOIuvH-C1fOw https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/%E2%80%9Evorw%C3%A4r... There's a whole site devoted to Weimar Era (1919-1933) era political campaign posters[3], and just about every party, left, right and center, used Fraktur on occasion - and to be fair to the parent commenter, repeatedly by a certain someone complaining about being cancelled[4][5][6] [3]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/ http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/ [4]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1924-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/... [5]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1925-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/... [6]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1927-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/...
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
Can we take a minute to talk about parent poster's name? It seems more than a little relevant: Super. Cuck. L'Chaim. supercucklchaim. ...who shows up here to throw a problematization grenade. Calling innocent things "Nazi". You understand what this is, right? It's an impersonation. A parody. A troll. Or worse, you might say.

Not trying to be difficult, but that font seems to have some historical implications we should rather not glorify.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago

What are you referring to?

teddyh 5y ago
The font is Blackletter, which was widely used in Europe, but specifically Germany kept using it until 1941, when Nazis abolished its use. But since Germans used the font, and nazis were German, people think that the font is bad, and should not be used. Similarly, since nazis tended to be clean-shaven and not grow beards, it is well-known that every right-thinking man today must grow a beard to avoid signalling their nazi sympathies.
- lwf 5y ago
  Which doesn't even make sense, given it was abolished by Nazi Germany "when Hitler's distaste for the supposedly "Jewish-influenced" script saw it officially discontinued" (via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter)
- micromacrofoot 5y ago
  wow this is the first i’ve heard of this and it’s very stupid
  - teddyh 5y ago
    Just to be clear, people being stupid about fonts is real, but my analogy about beards is meant to be an obvious joke to highlight the stupidity of such reasonings. I am not currently aware about anyone associating clean-shavenness with nazis, although it might only be a matter of time.
    - micromacrofoot 5y ago
      thanks for clarifying, but I have already heard some real “nazi haircut” discussion so you’re probably not far off! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/11/30/does-this-haircut-make-me-look-like-a-nazi/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/w...
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  Interesting factoids about military facial hair to go with your joke: Moustaches were mandatory in the British army (and shaving them off a punishable offence) for about sixty years, up until the middle of the First World War, where the rule fell out of favour in no small part because too many of the new recruits were too young for anything more than peach fuzz. The Victorian trend for really big bushy beards emerged in part out of mass public admiration for British soldiers returning from the Crimean War, who had grown long beards to help cope with the extreme cold over a very long campaign, after Queen Victoria noted them with some admiration. Though it probably did land at a time where shaving was somewhat out of fashion.
- daniel-cussen 5y ago
  Mmm...yeah so someone who learned German as a second language and knew a lot about the culture and history explained the toothbrush mustache, as worn by Adolf Hitler. "So it was because German elite airmen needed oxygen at the altitude at which they flew, within the airplane. I suppose because the cabin was not pressurized. They had to be able to get a good tight fit on the masks, so the only facial hair they could have was a toothbrush mustache, because that didn't make the mask leak. So in solidarity with elite airmen, to show they were just as masculine despite having so little facial hair, Hitler wore that mustache always."

MandieD 5y ago

Go learn a bit more history - the use of Blackletter/Fraktur was banned by the National Socialist government because it was "Jewish". Earlier Nazi posters and publications used it, but so did the Social Democrats (SPD - Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands) and even Communists (KPD - Kommunistiche Partei Deutschlands) - here are loads of examples, provided by a Social Democratic historical society (Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung)[0], and a very specific one - the edition of the "Vorwärts" announcing the abdication of the Kaiser (something the SPD was very excited about)[1]. Most older German books and newspapers, regardless of point of view, were typeset in Fraktur. [0]https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/friedrich-ebert-stiftung https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/friedrich-ebert-st... [1]https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/%E2%80%9Evorw%C3%A4rts%E2%80%9C-vom-9-november-1918-%E2%80%9Eder-kaiser-hat-abgedankt-%E2%80%9C/hwFOIuvH-C1fOw https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/%E2%80%9Evorw%C3%A4r... There's a whole site devoted to Weimar Era (1919-1933) era political campaign posters[3], and just about every party, left, right and center, used Fraktur on occasion - and to be fair to the parent commenter, repeatedly by a certain someone complaining about being cancelled[4][5][6] [3]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/ http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/ [4]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1924-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/... [5]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1925-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/... [6]http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/nsdap-1927-01.jpg http://www.wahlplakate-archiv.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/...

FooBarBizBazz 5y ago

Can we take a minute to talk about parent poster's name? It seems more than a little relevant: Super. Cuck. L'Chaim. supercucklchaim. ...who shows up here to throw a problematization grenade. Calling innocent things "Nazi". You understand what this is, right? It's an impersonation. A parody. A troll. Or worse, you might say.