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Banning cats? Banning vodka? Firing Putin supporters? This is bloodthirst? This is disregard for innocent children? I must have the wrong dictionary. [edit:a

Banning cats? Banning vodka? Firing Putin supporters? This is bloodthirst? This is disregard for innocent children? I must have the wrong dictionary. [edit:as far as being simply “anti-Russian”, perhaps this qualifies. I can see how it might be concerning and even foreboding. And we should keep an eye on it. But i think it’s a stretch to call it anti-Russian. At this point, it’s really just anti-war and equivalent to communal shaming and shunning. I doubt many poor Russians will be hurt by the cat/vodka ban. And they certainly wont care that a likely-wealthy Putin supporter must now look for another job.]

doix 5y ago
I think it will be very interesting to see what happens when the war ends. If there are significant reparations to be paid and if the sanctions remain, I think this easily opens it up for a repeat of WWII. Similar to post WWI Germany, Russia will be fucked. Putin will eventually die (natural causes/bullet to the head) and the next guy will be a bigger nutjob that rallies the people behind him by blaming the West/Jews. I don't know what the best course of action is right now, maybe the sanactions are the optimal choice. But afterwards, I hope people remember history and what happens when you kick a country that's already fucked.
- justinpowers 5y ago
  Desperation is certainly a dangerous beast. Fortunately we aren’t quite at WW1 equivalence yet. And, my history isn’t even close to perfect, but i believe the Germans pre-ww1 were, per capita, much wealthier and much more aggressively nationalistic than your average Russian. They were also much more industrious and threatening (disregarding Russians current world-destroying arsenal and unpredictable leadership). But you’re right, it’ll be an interesting, precarious situation regardless.
- awb 5y ago
  It’s certainly an important lesson. There were a lot of other ones too though like would WWII have happened if the Allies enforced German disarmament? The world is different now today though and far more global. Post WWII, West Germany and Japan became Western success stories by integrating them into the global economy. I suspect future post-war reconciliation will like more like WWII than WWI.
  - hackerfromthefu 5y ago
    In my opinion, economic integration must be preceded by complete nuclear disarmament.

doix 5y ago

I think it will be very interesting to see what happens when the war ends. If there are significant reparations to be paid and if the sanctions remain, I think this easily opens it up for a repeat of WWII. Similar to post WWI Germany, Russia will be fucked. Putin will eventually die (natural causes/bullet to the head) and the next guy will be a bigger nutjob that rallies the people behind him by blaming the West/Jews. I don't know what the best course of action is right now, maybe the sanactions are the optimal choice. But afterwards, I hope people remember history and what happens when you kick a country that's already fucked.

justinpowers 5y ago
Desperation is certainly a dangerous beast. Fortunately we aren’t quite at WW1 equivalence yet. And, my history isn’t even close to perfect, but i believe the Germans pre-ww1 were, per capita, much wealthier and much more aggressively nationalistic than your average Russian. They were also much more industrious and threatening (disregarding Russians current world-destroying arsenal and unpredictable leadership). But you’re right, it’ll be an interesting, precarious situation regardless.
awb 5y ago
It’s certainly an important lesson. There were a lot of other ones too though like would WWII have happened if the Allies enforced German disarmament? The world is different now today though and far more global. Post WWII, West Germany and Japan became Western success stories by integrating them into the global economy. I suspect future post-war reconciliation will like more like WWII than WWI.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  In my opinion, economic integration must be preceded by complete nuclear disarmament.