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Why would the US pick return its diplomats in a Russian il96? That website is amazing too, I am surprised so much data is publicly available.

by tus666 5y ago

ncallaway 5y ago
The US doesn't pick a flight. The US says: "You're not welcome, you have XX hours to leave the country". The diplomatic personnel have to figure out their own ride home. Normally that's fine (private charter flight, commercial, whatever), but in this case there are few (no?) flights to Russia, and the Russian's can't fly there due to airspace restrictions. So in this case, Russia asked for a special exemption to the US airspace restriction so it could get its personnel out. The US said "fine", and the Russians are flying the IL-96 in to pick up its personnel
- Symbiote 5y ago
  The FAA ban has an exception for diplomatic flights: "EXCEPT ... STATE AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS GRANTED A DIPLOMATIC CLEARANCE BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE" There are commercial options, e.g. flying to Turkey, the Middle East, China, India etc and taking a connecting flight to Moscow. But Russia probably doesn't want a large group of their spies and families travelling together on a commercial flight.
mike_d 5y ago
FlightRadar24, FlightAware, etc. are actually heavily censored. As a recipient of FAA radar data they have to agree to remove planes owned by rich people and corporations that don't want to be publicly visible. https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/privacy/ https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/privacy/ ADSBExchange.com does not accept FAA data or process any removal requests.
- nickphx 5y ago
  That's not how ADSB works.. FlightRadar/FlightAware do not have an "FAA Radar feed", they have a network of rtlSDRs listening for ADSB traffic. They offer the removal of the public display of flights, you can still purchase a commercial account to view them.. https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/
  - chinathrow 5y ago
    They are using FAA data next to regular data provided by ADSB data feeders, and yes, the FAA is having their data feed censored to some degree. https://forum.flightradar24.com/forum/radar-forums/flightradar24-web-page-and-apps/3870-faa-traffic https://forum.flightradar24.com/forum/radar-forums/flightrad...
  - mike_d 5y ago
    Depending on the company they use three sources of data: community feeders, FAA radar feeds, and the most recent addition is satellite based ADSB receivers. The latter two are how they get coverage in places where people don't live, like polar or oceanic flights.
colanderman 5y ago
The US is not picking up its diplomats; it has expelled Russia's diplomats.

Why would the US pick return its diplomats in a Russian il96? That website is amazing too, I am surprised so much data is publicly available.

by tus666 5y ago

Why would the US pick return its diplomats in a Russian il96? That website is amazing too, I am surprised so much data is publicly available.

ncallaway 5y ago

The US doesn't pick a flight. The US says: "You're not welcome, you have XX hours to leave the country". The diplomatic personnel have to figure out their own ride home. Normally that's fine (private charter flight, commercial, whatever), but in this case there are few (no?) flights to Russia, and the Russian's can't fly there due to airspace restrictions. So in this case, Russia asked for a special exemption to the US airspace restriction so it could get its personnel out. The US said "fine", and the Russians are flying the IL-96 in to pick up its personnel

Symbiote 5y ago
The FAA ban has an exception for diplomatic flights: "EXCEPT ... STATE AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS GRANTED A DIPLOMATIC CLEARANCE BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE" There are commercial options, e.g. flying to Turkey, the Middle East, China, India etc and taking a connecting flight to Moscow. But Russia probably doesn't want a large group of their spies and families travelling together on a commercial flight.

mike_d 5y ago

FlightRadar24, FlightAware, etc. are actually heavily censored. As a recipient of FAA radar data they have to agree to remove planes owned by rich people and corporations that don't want to be publicly visible. https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/privacy/ https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/privacy/ ADSBExchange.com does not accept FAA data or process any removal requests.

nickphx 5y ago
That's not how ADSB works.. FlightRadar/FlightAware do not have an "FAA Radar feed", they have a network of rtlSDRs listening for ADSB traffic. They offer the removal of the public display of flights, you can still purchase a commercial account to view them.. https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/
- chinathrow 5y ago
  They are using FAA data next to regular data provided by ADSB data feeders, and yes, the FAA is having their data feed censored to some degree. https://forum.flightradar24.com/forum/radar-forums/flightradar24-web-page-and-apps/3870-faa-traffic https://forum.flightradar24.com/forum/radar-forums/flightrad...
- mike_d 5y ago
  Depending on the company they use three sources of data: community feeders, FAA radar feeds, and the most recent addition is satellite based ADSB receivers. The latter two are how they get coverage in places where people don't live, like polar or oceanic flights.

colanderman 5y ago

The US is not picking up its diplomats; it has expelled Russia's diplomats.