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If you've seen it in the news or read in twitter - it's truth.

331c8c71 5y ago
The Western media plainly won't report what the Russian side says. https://tass.com/society/1417395 https://tass.com/society/1417395
- another_why 5y ago
  I cant even open it. Clearly something important which my government doesnt want me to know
- andy-x 5y ago
  You realize that TASS is state-owned and just repeats the same propaganda that comes from Kremlin, don't you? EDIT: To be more specific, the news I heard on Ukrainian media was that corridors were indeed open for a brief period, but fire started again almost at the moment when transports with refugees began moving, giving them no chance to leave.
ratsmack 5y ago
I believe I detect a little bit of sarcasm in that statement.
- 331c8c71 5y ago
  Not at all. The agreement to create temporary ceasefires to evacuate civilians were the only real outcome of the last talks. It was largely reported in Russian media. Today during the morning briefing the Russian officials said that the zones and logistics were agreed and respected but russian forces haven't observed any movement of civilians. They observed rearrangement of ukranian units though. The ukranian live YouTube channel I follow provided a few messages from (allegedly) people nearby (e.g. no buses or people were still in shelters). No clear picture from these messages.
  - ratsmack 5y ago
    It's sad that we can't trust most media to give the real story. It seems that 98% of all media today has an agenda. I suspect that social media echo chambers are a distraction that drives a lot of this regardless of political affiliation.
    - 331c8c71 5y ago
      How does this even work? In that particular case has it crossed the journalists' mind to check what the Russian position is? Did he understand implicitly that would be frowned upon by the boss/editor? Gotta read that manufacturing consent book.
  - drran 5y ago
    We (Ukrainians) believed Russians once, in Ilovaisk. Of course, we will not believe them second time. Our government sends notices to citizens to not trust Russian promises about evacuation or green corridors. Because of Ilovaisk tragedy, «green corridor» now has meaning of death threat, e.g. «we will make green corridors for Russians» means «we will fool Russians and then kill them», not a promise of a safe escape. When Russians says that they will open a green corridor for us again, everyone is flies from them.
    - 331c8c71 5y ago
      Thank you, I was not aware of that incident. I hope this war stops as soon as possible. The Russian people I know (including myself) don't support the war and are trying to help with the humanitarian aid, refugees etc (I'm outside russia).
    - inter_netuser 5y ago
      so what you are saying is, your government officially agrees with russia about humanitarian corridors, but then tells your own citizens not to follow them? Do you have a picture of the notice? How do you know it's your government?
      - 5y ago

The Western media plainly won't report what the Russian side says. https://tass.com/society/1417395 https://tass.com/society/1417395

another_why 5y ago
I cant even open it. Clearly something important which my government doesnt want me to know
andy-x 5y ago
You realize that TASS is state-owned and just repeats the same propaganda that comes from Kremlin, don't you? EDIT: To be more specific, the news I heard on Ukrainian media was that corridors were indeed open for a brief period, but fire started again almost at the moment when transports with refugees began moving, giving them no chance to leave.

ratsmack 5y ago

I believe I detect a little bit of sarcasm in that statement.

331c8c71 5y ago
Not at all. The agreement to create temporary ceasefires to evacuate civilians were the only real outcome of the last talks. It was largely reported in Russian media. Today during the morning briefing the Russian officials said that the zones and logistics were agreed and respected but russian forces haven't observed any movement of civilians. They observed rearrangement of ukranian units though. The ukranian live YouTube channel I follow provided a few messages from (allegedly) people nearby (e.g. no buses or people were still in shelters). No clear picture from these messages.
- ratsmack 5y ago
  It's sad that we can't trust most media to give the real story. It seems that 98% of all media today has an agenda. I suspect that social media echo chambers are a distraction that drives a lot of this regardless of political affiliation.
  - 331c8c71 5y ago
    How does this even work? In that particular case has it crossed the journalists' mind to check what the Russian position is? Did he understand implicitly that would be frowned upon by the boss/editor? Gotta read that manufacturing consent book.
- drran 5y ago
  We (Ukrainians) believed Russians once, in Ilovaisk. Of course, we will not believe them second time. Our government sends notices to citizens to not trust Russian promises about evacuation or green corridors. Because of Ilovaisk tragedy, «green corridor» now has meaning of death threat, e.g. «we will make green corridors for Russians» means «we will fool Russians and then kill them», not a promise of a safe escape. When Russians says that they will open a green corridor for us again, everyone is flies from them.
  - 331c8c71 5y ago
    Thank you, I was not aware of that incident. I hope this war stops as soon as possible. The Russian people I know (including myself) don't support the war and are trying to help with the humanitarian aid, refugees etc (I'm outside russia).
  - inter_netuser 5y ago
    so what you are saying is, your government officially agrees with russia about humanitarian corridors, but then tells your own citizens not to follow them? Do you have a picture of the notice? How do you know it's your government?
    - 5y ago