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Look at my shit, even if as smelly, it is better documented than yours. > I'm sorry, but this is whataboutism in its full glory. Dismissing every argument wit
by ignoramous 5y ago
Look at my shit, even if as smelly, it is better documented than yours.
> I'm sorry, but this is whataboutism in its full glory.
Dismissing every argument with whataboutism seems to be flavour of the day, even when it is not whataboutism.
- SeanLuke 5y agoYou're welcome to your own opinions, and your own blithe dismissals, but you are not welcome to your own facts. I lived during most of the period discussed by the GP. Everything from the Bay of Pigs to supporting the Shah to Iran Contra to the invasion of Grenada was well covered and well criticized in the US press. And the US invasion of Iraq was highly criticized in the US press even as the US government was facing an uphill battle to convince the world that it was proper by brandishing fake bottles of poison at the UN. The US has done a lot of bad stuff. But claiming that the press just went along with it is historical revisionism, full stop.
- ignoramous 5y agoHaving "free" Press does not absolve US of its crimes. That's even ignoring the fact that the Press itself is a propaganda tool for the US military-industrial complex, while steeping in biases of its own. You're welcome to live in your own bubble of facts.
- bigfudge 5y agoThere’s merit on both sides here. I think the key is that OP was making a personal Point about their own reflection. However well documented in academic texts or small newspapers thinking about how the US has meddled and more is not mainstream in the US, especially on the centre right. 911 did something similar for a number of my friends too - they started looking at some of that history in more detail, and it became important in their decision making.
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