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The tomato plant and its alkaloids were also experimented with, hence the witches potions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Plant_toxicity https://en.wikipe

The tomato plant and its alkaloids were also experimented with, hence the witches potions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Plant_toxicity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Plant_toxicity The Salem Witch trials is because the tomato was considered the devils fruit, but it was the plant alkaloids which caused the real trouble (hallucinogens) and libido raising, hence riding the broomstick. Even in the 1930's Bella Donna was used to dilate the pupils to make a woman more attractive but it could also hide Argyll Robertson Pupil (a sign of neurosyphilis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna#Toxicity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna#Toxicity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyll_Robertson_pupil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyll_Robertson_pupil

jelliclesfarm 5y ago
salem witch trials happened right after an outbreak of rye ergot. Ergot is a fungus blight..can make one trip due to it's hallucinogenic effect. the accusers were tripping heavily. you are mixing up entirely different kinds of plants. https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/witches-curse-clues-evidence/1501/ https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/witches-curse-clues-evidenc...
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
  It might have been this trial (https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/americas-alleged-trial-against-tomatoes-not-witches-in-salem/ https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/americas-alleged-trial-ag...) which someone had confused with the earlier trial, which is what I was reading on a blog.
Telemakhos 5y ago
The Salem Witch trials were very recent; witches and fun drugs go much further back, as documented in Renaissance medical literature on "flying ointment" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ointment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ointment for a pretty decent overview, albeit for some reason excluding medical texts and concentrating on esoteric and legal texts). It's a lipid-based ointment with some sort of drug, applied to the temples, causing either hallucinations or at least a "rushing" feeling and high accompanied by catatonia, as if the soul were flying around having left the body. It seems to have been used by women who were bored and wanted to feel like they were flying.
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
  I think the Bible could be considered a document detailing hallucinations like the burning bush. Something I have noticed when reading reports of people on their death beds and accounts of people using hallucinogens is there are "patterns" or characteristics to the different types of hallucinogens consumed, like DMT machine elves is different to lsd visuals. The brain on the death bed will release chemicals and those chemicals will cause different hallucinations, so I wonder if things like cadaverine might elicit some sort of hallucinations.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    The most interesting thing is that the burning bush is a real extant species. A cousin of the oranges that is a sort of phoenix plant able to ignite without burning. So the "hallucination" is the real part in that legend. Fans of Harry Potter will probably recognize its other name Dittany I want one since several years but I don't have space for it. Maybe I should order the pink cultivar this season. Low maintenance, big fun Aren't plants awesome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7u4xFmpP0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7u4xFmpP0

jelliclesfarm 5y ago

salem witch trials happened right after an outbreak of rye ergot. Ergot is a fungus blight..can make one trip due to it's hallucinogenic effect. the accusers were tripping heavily. you are mixing up entirely different kinds of plants. https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/witches-curse-clues-evidence/1501/ https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/witches-curse-clues-evidenc...

Terry_Roll 5y ago
It might have been this trial (https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/americas-alleged-trial-against-tomatoes-not-witches-in-salem/ https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/americas-alleged-trial-ag...) which someone had confused with the earlier trial, which is what I was reading on a blog.

Telemakhos 5y ago

The Salem Witch trials were very recent; witches and fun drugs go much further back, as documented in Renaissance medical literature on "flying ointment" (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ointment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_ointment for a pretty decent overview, albeit for some reason excluding medical texts and concentrating on esoteric and legal texts). It's a lipid-based ointment with some sort of drug, applied to the temples, causing either hallucinations or at least a "rushing" feeling and high accompanied by catatonia, as if the soul were flying around having left the body. It seems to have been used by women who were bored and wanted to feel like they were flying.

Terry_Roll 5y ago
I think the Bible could be considered a document detailing hallucinations like the burning bush. Something I have noticed when reading reports of people on their death beds and accounts of people using hallucinogens is there are "patterns" or characteristics to the different types of hallucinogens consumed, like DMT machine elves is different to lsd visuals. The brain on the death bed will release chemicals and those chemicals will cause different hallucinations, so I wonder if things like cadaverine might elicit some sort of hallucinations.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  The most interesting thing is that the burning bush is a real extant species. A cousin of the oranges that is a sort of phoenix plant able to ignite without burning. So the "hallucination" is the real part in that legend. Fans of Harry Potter will probably recognize its other name Dittany I want one since several years but I don't have space for it. Maybe I should order the pink cultivar this season. Low maintenance, big fun Aren't plants awesome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7u4xFmpP0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7u4xFmpP0