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>> If everything normalized tomorrow, what would stop Russia and Ukraine from resuming wheat shipments? The effects of war are not magically undone when the wa

>> If everything normalized tomorrow, what would stop Russia and Ukraine from resuming wheat shipments? The effects of war are not magically undone when the war ends. If the war ended today, it would take Ukraine decades to recover. Pictures like these do not show the people whose lives have been shattered or lost: https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-before-and-after-the-devastating-impact-of-russias-attack-12555679 https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-before-and-after... Similarly, the sanctions on Russia are only a symbol of the loss of trust and willingness to cooperate that many people throughout the world feel. How many years or decades will it take to build back that trust?

School-Cotton 5y ago
Your picture is not of a destroyed wheat field, so what is your point? Everything in the linked story claims that wheat shortages are due to short-term disruption, not productive capacity having been destroyed. > How many years or decades will it take to build back that trust? That’s irrelevant to the discussion. You don’t need to trust someone in order to buy wheat from them. The actual sanctions are what matter, not whatever they “symbolize”. And there’s no reason to believe the sanctions would last for years or decades if Putin were deposed and Russia’s aggressive actions stopped.
- thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
  >> Your picture is not of a destroyed wheat field, so what is your point? Everything in the linked story claims that wheat shortages are due to short-term disruption, not productive capacity having been destroyed. Wheat fields don't harvest themselves. Wheat can't drive itself to ports and load itself on ships. It requires people and infrastructure. The war has disrupted those people and the country's infrastructure. It does not magically return when the war ends. >> You don’t need to trust someone in order to buy wheat from them. Yes, but when given the choice many people choose not to do business with murderous criminal thugs. If someone killed your family members or friends would you buy grain from them? Or would you pay more and buy grain from someone else? >> And there’s no reason to believe the sanctions would last for years or decades if Putin were deposed and Russia’s aggressive actions stopped. Who knows? That has not happened yet.
Aperocky 5y ago
wheat does not need trust, it is not a fiat currency.
- thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
  >> wheat does not need trust, it is not a fiat currency. As I said above, when given the choice many people choose not to do business with murderous criminal thugs. If someone killed your family members or friends would you buy grain from them? Or would you pay more and buy grain from someone else?

School-Cotton 5y ago

Your picture is not of a destroyed wheat field, so what is your point? Everything in the linked story claims that wheat shortages are due to short-term disruption, not productive capacity having been destroyed. > How many years or decades will it take to build back that trust? That’s irrelevant to the discussion. You don’t need to trust someone in order to buy wheat from them. The actual sanctions are what matter, not whatever they “symbolize”. And there’s no reason to believe the sanctions would last for years or decades if Putin were deposed and Russia’s aggressive actions stopped.

thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
>> Your picture is not of a destroyed wheat field, so what is your point? Everything in the linked story claims that wheat shortages are due to short-term disruption, not productive capacity having been destroyed. Wheat fields don't harvest themselves. Wheat can't drive itself to ports and load itself on ships. It requires people and infrastructure. The war has disrupted those people and the country's infrastructure. It does not magically return when the war ends. >> You don’t need to trust someone in order to buy wheat from them. Yes, but when given the choice many people choose not to do business with murderous criminal thugs. If someone killed your family members or friends would you buy grain from them? Or would you pay more and buy grain from someone else? >> And there’s no reason to believe the sanctions would last for years or decades if Putin were deposed and Russia’s aggressive actions stopped. Who knows? That has not happened yet.

Aperocky 5y ago

wheat does not need trust, it is not a fiat currency.

thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
>> wheat does not need trust, it is not a fiat currency. As I said above, when given the choice many people choose not to do business with murderous criminal thugs. If someone killed your family members or friends would you buy grain from them? Or would you pay more and buy grain from someone else?