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There's nothing surprising about it. There is at least one recent, well documented case of mass emigration due to the economic collapse of an authoritarian regi
by mkl95 5y ago
There's nothing surprising about it. There is at least one recent, well documented case of mass emigration due to the economic collapse of an authoritarian regime. Millions of people have left Venezuela since the late 2000s [1]. Considering Russia is barely richer than Spain whilst having 3x the population and the fact it's about to get much worse, I would expect millions of Russians to leave in the next few years.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela
- chrisweekly 5y agoAgreed. tiny nitpick: immigration -> emigration
- MattGaiser 5y agoAnd consider throughout history what people have done when their government got more authoritarian and their nation's economy collapsed. Or just when the latter happens. I am quite intrigued at those who doubt this of all stories.
- formvoltron 5y agoSeems like now could be a smart time to get back to Venezuela. Where are these 10M barrels going to come from for the west? And now you have Saudis not entirely taking USA's side in this conflict.
- jeffbee 5y agoYou'd have to capture Venezuela and install American or Saudi oil companies to make it work. The Venezuelan petro infrastructure is in complete disarray. Active rigs in that country hit zero and production was near zero at the end of 2020. Anyway, pumping out Venezuela is the worst idea imaginable. That carbon needs to stay in the ground. If you want to stick it to the Russians, deploy a national workforce installing solar panels all over Germany and Italy, then dynamite the Russian gas pipelines.
- diordiderot 5y agoDynamite them now. You could heat all of Europe with a yatch tax
- hatsubishi 5y agoSpain is a very rich country though, 10th in the world by total wealth. What you're comparing is the current GDP, which is a different thing than being rich, it's production. In Spain production may be lower but still people enjoy a great quality of life because they are living of the wealth generated before, i.e. everything is extremely cheap including real estate.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago>wealth generated before Yeah, "generated".
- rmbyrro 5y ago"Generated"... by Africans and South Americans. But yesterday it was OK to do what Russia is doing now.
- vhgyu75e6u 5y agoAh yes generated at least 200 years ago and were absolutely untouched during a Civil War and 2 worl wars destroying Europe
- rmbyrro 5y agoSpain was practically untouched during both World Wars. Surprisingly - for an European country - it was one of the few states to remain neutral during the conflicts. [1] [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_during_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_during_World_War_II [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_during_World_War_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_during_World_War_I
- mkl95 5y agoYou are right. Spain basically destroyed itself between the late 19th century and the early to mid 20th century.
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