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I dunno what kind of wheat they grow in Ukraine; specifically when do they plant and harvest? I've got the impression that planting season is a couple weeks to

I dunno what kind of wheat they grow in Ukraine; specifically when do they plant and harvest? I've got the impression that planting season is a couple weeks to a month off and closes a couple weeks after that, for a late fall harvest. In the southern USA there's more winter wheat in the fields than I've seen in the 30 years I've lived here. It looks really happy so far too. They'll be bringing that in starting in another 3mo or so.

ed25519FUUU 5y ago
You probably know this already but the hard winter wheat and soft white spring wheat are used to make different types of food. I imagine in the US food manufacturers will start trying to swap for hard winter wheat which it sounds like we’ll have a lot of. But you’re right about planting season. It’s coming up fast and that window will close with no way to rewind if tensions die down.
downrightmike 5y ago
It isn't so much production as transport. We may have a lot of wheat, but getting it shipped is way more expensive and ship into long beach are only on time about 10% of the time, pre covid, they were 90% on time. And it is a lot easier to get goods into smaller towns and farms etc, than it will be to pick up a bunch of shipments from rural areas.
- derbOac 5y ago
  This is related to something on my mind since I read about the impact of the Ukraine conflict on wheat: will the economic impacts of wheat deficits be equally spread worldwide? I wondered about it because I am lucky I suppose to live in an area with a fair amount of local wheat production. During the pandemic I noticed that the locally produced wheat never really disappeared even though it was more expensive to begin with; the bigger brands totally disappeared from the shelves. I could see this as making a bigger impact though, because it's affecting worldwide stock to a bigger extent, at the more basic level of production rather than supply chains per se. But if the local wheat isn't really going anywhere anyway, maybe it doesn't matter. Between this and the pandemic it seems like smaller, local production is being rewarded more, at least where I am. Chains struggled but smaller local shops thrived.

ed25519FUUU 5y ago

You probably know this already but the hard winter wheat and soft white spring wheat are used to make different types of food. I imagine in the US food manufacturers will start trying to swap for hard winter wheat which it sounds like we’ll have a lot of. But you’re right about planting season. It’s coming up fast and that window will close with no way to rewind if tensions die down.

downrightmike 5y ago

It isn't so much production as transport. We may have a lot of wheat, but getting it shipped is way more expensive and ship into long beach are only on time about 10% of the time, pre covid, they were 90% on time. And it is a lot easier to get goods into smaller towns and farms etc, than it will be to pick up a bunch of shipments from rural areas.

derbOac 5y ago
This is related to something on my mind since I read about the impact of the Ukraine conflict on wheat: will the economic impacts of wheat deficits be equally spread worldwide? I wondered about it because I am lucky I suppose to live in an area with a fair amount of local wheat production. During the pandemic I noticed that the locally produced wheat never really disappeared even though it was more expensive to begin with; the bigger brands totally disappeared from the shelves. I could see this as making a bigger impact though, because it's affecting worldwide stock to a bigger extent, at the more basic level of production rather than supply chains per se. But if the local wheat isn't really going anywhere anyway, maybe it doesn't matter. Between this and the pandemic it seems like smaller, local production is being rewarded more, at least where I am. Chains struggled but smaller local shops thrived.