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I personally haven't seen a biased Wikipedia article in a very long time. It is absolutely astounding to me and seems like one of the great successes of interne

by smt88 5y ago

I personally haven't seen a biased Wikipedia article in a very long time. It is absolutely astounding to me and seems like one of the great successes of internet culture. I assume OP has a particular set of issues that they are not in agreement with the majority of experts on.

itsoktocry 5y ago
>I personally haven't seen a biased Wikipedia article in a very long time. What leads you to believe you can so easily spot a biased article? Everyone believes they're a neutral arbiter.
- smt88 5y ago
  "Biased" to me doesn't mean "I disagree". It means: - presented as a fact, rather than as the opinion of a scholar/researcher/etc. (meaning Wikipedia says it is true without citing anyone else) - ignoring a significant controversy or dissent - describing uncertain information as certain - perpetuating the myth that science is settled and can't be updated with new information
  - mst 5y ago
    Pages with culture war elements will inevitably be impacted by the culture war positions of the active editors in the area in question affecting how strictly a given source is judged for quality. I'm deliberately avoiding giving examples because it seems logical to assume that I'd merely reflect my own culture war positions with respect to any such example and thereby generate more heat than light. Overall though I still think wikipedia turns out pretty reasonably as a whole even given having seen a number of situations where I disagreed with the outcome.
mechanical_bear 5y ago
“Experts” just depends on who you draw on as an expert: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/24/wikipedias-political-science-coverage-is-biased-i-tried-fix-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/24/wikipedia... https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/02/02/169470/computational-linguistics-reveals-how-wikipedia-articles-are-biased-against-women/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/02/02/169470/computati... https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/ https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/
- smt88 5y ago
  I don't have a set of experts in my mind. To me, experts are people who have spent a lot of time studying something firsthand, have turned over their research in a transparent way, who submit their work to criticism by their peers and the public, and who have no hidden financial backing from a biased party.

by smt88 5y ago

itsoktocry 5y ago

>I personally haven't seen a biased Wikipedia article in a very long time. What leads you to believe you can so easily spot a biased article? Everyone believes they're a neutral arbiter.

smt88 5y ago
"Biased" to me doesn't mean "I disagree". It means: - presented as a fact, rather than as the opinion of a scholar/researcher/etc. (meaning Wikipedia says it is true without citing anyone else) - ignoring a significant controversy or dissent - describing uncertain information as certain - perpetuating the myth that science is settled and can't be updated with new information
- mst 5y ago
  Pages with culture war elements will inevitably be impacted by the culture war positions of the active editors in the area in question affecting how strictly a given source is judged for quality. I'm deliberately avoiding giving examples because it seems logical to assume that I'd merely reflect my own culture war positions with respect to any such example and thereby generate more heat than light. Overall though I still think wikipedia turns out pretty reasonably as a whole even given having seen a number of situations where I disagreed with the outcome.

mechanical_bear 5y ago

“Experts” just depends on who you draw on as an expert: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/24/wikipedias-political-science-coverage-is-biased-i-tried-fix-it/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/24/wikipedia... https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/02/02/169470/computational-linguistics-reveals-how-wikipedia-articles-are-biased-against-women/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2015/02/02/169470/computati... https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/ https://thecritic.co.uk/the-left-wing-bias-of-wikipedia/

smt88 5y ago
I don't have a set of experts in my mind. To me, experts are people who have spent a lot of time studying something firsthand, have turned over their research in a transparent way, who submit their work to criticism by their peers and the public, and who have no hidden financial backing from a biased party.