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I can't see the original comment but your premises are wrong. Just because someone is a certain gender doesn't mean their opinion is invalid on what should hap
by jokethrowaway 5y ago
I can't see the original comment but your premises are wrong.
Just because someone is a certain gender doesn't mean their opinion is invalid on what should happen in the society s/he's a part of.
Most women abort due to convenience, not wanting to hop on the teenage mom life. There's a minority who risk losing their life because of their pregnancy and I agree that's a valid reason to kill someone, in the same way as eating someone on a boat in the middle of the ocean is not a crime.
Life is obviously created at conception when an egg is fecundated - hence why it's called conception.
What we're debating on is whether it should be legal to terminate that life or not.
I'll start by saying it would be very convenient for me to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. I had a scare when I was a teen and definitely thought we'd abort if it turned out we were expecting.
That said, I was and I am aware it would be killing a human life. Even if it's legal, it's definitely immoral - but something I would do, because I think that my convenience trumps someone else life (I know, unpopular opinion, call me callous and heartless).
One of the roles the government is to protect the life of its citizens; according to this definition, abortion shouldn't be legal, if we care about consistency.
I personally believe if there's a government it should protect everyone's lives, including a fetus - but I would prefer a government-less society where people are protected by private companies and abortion (and anything else) is unregulated. A fetus won't be able to afford protection so his parents would be deciding for him until he's big enough to support himself.
This is not because I think killing a fetus is moral, but because I think that can be prevented only through a centralised violent entity that control everyone and need to sustain itself through theft - and I think abortion is a tolerable price to pay for not infringing on anyone's freedom.
Hopefully in a freer and richer society abortion would become rarer and rarer.
- xiphias2 5y agoAs a man I feel the same about eating meat. It’s a convenience thing for staying lean and getting enough proteins for my muscles. Abortion happens before the human fetus has a developed central nervous system (at 6 months), so the animals we eat have a much more painful life / death than the aborted life. As long as I eat meat I don’t feel like I can have a say in whether abortion should be allowed or not. At the same time it will have devastating consequences on the population level.