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Liberal states (and countries) were absolutely brutal with their Covid response. It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of m

Liberal states (and countries) were absolutely brutal with their Covid response. It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of mass sensationalism and demonization to show that it wasn't as bad as the liberal states were predicting. With the Liberals taking both branches of federal congress and the presidency it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. They tried to put through a federal vaccine mandate which was struck down by the courts on grounds of....federal overreach. And now thanks to conservative governors and states rights we can all live our normal lives again because everyone is falling in line with those conservative states who were brave enough to stand up against the crazy liberal policies. This applies to defunding the police as well. Many of the liberal states that implemented defunding the police are changing that as well. Sensational policy making appears to be a pattern with liberal states which is why states rights are beautiful. It highlights poor policy making. It is a double edged sword though because liberal states have many good policies. The point is having a variety in policies leads to richer, better governing.

kmos17 5y ago
There is nothing brave about republican governors in majority republican states following the misinformed party line for political brownie points on mask mandates and vaccines, in fact the exact opposite would have been brave and saved thousands of lives. Maybe now the approach makes more sense since vaccination rates are higher but it certainly did not at the time.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Vaccinations rates are 65% of the population only 15% higher than 6 months ago. Deaths are between 1500 and 2000 a day across the U.S..... higher than all but 3 to 5 months of the 2 year pandemic. The people who are going for misinformed political brownie points are the Liberal states who know if they don't lift the covid restrictions during a voting year they will be removed from office which is extremely sick and hypocritical if you ask me, especially after demonizing republicans who stuck to their priniciples.
  - kmos17 5y ago
    The 2k deaths per day are vast majority unvaccinated, republican governors in those states are partly directly responsible for the low vaccination rates by participating in this madness of misinformation and partisanship. These people should not be dying at this point if it were not for this propaganda.
    - edmcnulty101 5y ago
      And yet New York and California are lifting their COVID restrictions even though this is not over.
ykevinator2 5y ago
It is science not liberal. The hospitals were full of dead and dying. Macho dullards are not heroic they're misinformed and leading the dumb over a cliff.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  2000 deaths a day in the U.S. from Covid. They're having more deaths nowadays in the US than MOST of the rest of the pandemic. And New York and California are still lifting covid restrictions. State's are realizing that Florida and Texas were right from the beginning and copying them.
  - kmos17 5y ago
    They are doing it now because the vaccination rate is high enough that the increase in transmission will not translate into overwhelmed hospital systems. Doing it earlier in dense population centers would have been complete madness. No one is looking at Florida or Texas and thinking they were right then other than people who’ve lost all perspective on the truth.
    - edmcnulty101 5y ago
      [flagged]
      - ikt 5y ago
        this is the most painful thread I think I've ever seen on HN
        edmcnulty101 5y ago
        ikt 5y ago
        ok this has to be a troll
JaimeThompson 5y ago
>It took the brave governors of Texas If the Texas governor was so brave why was the Texas governors mansion closed for public tours for the official reason of protecting his family from Covid?
tzs 5y ago
> It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of mass sensationalism and demonization to show that it wasn't as bad as the liberal states were predicting. Florida hasn't done very well with COVID [1]. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=(None)&show=us-states&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-all&extra=Florida#states-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-...
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Not bad enough to warrant lockdowns and perpetual mask mandates. California and New York lifted their covid restrictions the past few weeks... even though the pandemic is not over... Florida and Texas were right.
  - tzs 5y ago
    They are lifting restrictions because deaths and hospitalizations are coming down [1]. [1] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=(None)&show=agg-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-52wk-wks&extra=California%2CFlorida%2CNew%20York#states-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-...
    - edmcnulty101 5y ago
      2000 deaths a day. Still higher than most of the pandemic over the last two years. They're lifting them because they're realizing the restrictions are pointless and hopeless. Which means they were wrong all along and Tx and FL were right.

kmos17 5y ago

There is nothing brave about republican governors in majority republican states following the misinformed party line for political brownie points on mask mandates and vaccines, in fact the exact opposite would have been brave and saved thousands of lives. Maybe now the approach makes more sense since vaccination rates are higher but it certainly did not at the time.

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Vaccinations rates are 65% of the population only 15% higher than 6 months ago. Deaths are between 1500 and 2000 a day across the U.S..... higher than all but 3 to 5 months of the 2 year pandemic. The people who are going for misinformed political brownie points are the Liberal states who know if they don't lift the covid restrictions during a voting year they will be removed from office which is extremely sick and hypocritical if you ask me, especially after demonizing republicans who stuck to their priniciples.
- kmos17 5y ago
  The 2k deaths per day are vast majority unvaccinated, republican governors in those states are partly directly responsible for the low vaccination rates by participating in this madness of misinformation and partisanship. These people should not be dying at this point if it were not for this propaganda.
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    And yet New York and California are lifting their COVID restrictions even though this is not over.

ykevinator2 5y ago

It is science not liberal. The hospitals were full of dead and dying. Macho dullards are not heroic they're misinformed and leading the dumb over a cliff.

edmcnulty101 5y ago
2000 deaths a day in the U.S. from Covid. They're having more deaths nowadays in the US than MOST of the rest of the pandemic. And New York and California are still lifting covid restrictions. State's are realizing that Florida and Texas were right from the beginning and copying them.
- kmos17 5y ago
  They are doing it now because the vaccination rate is high enough that the increase in transmission will not translate into overwhelmed hospital systems. Doing it earlier in dense population centers would have been complete madness. No one is looking at Florida or Texas and thinking they were right then other than people who’ve lost all perspective on the truth.
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    [flagged]
    - ikt 5y ago
      this is the most painful thread I think I've ever seen on HN
      - edmcnulty101 5y ago
        ikt 5y ago
        ok this has to be a troll

JaimeThompson 5y ago

>It took the brave governors of Texas If the Texas governor was so brave why was the Texas governors mansion closed for public tours for the official reason of protecting his family from Covid?

tzs 5y ago

> It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of mass sensationalism and demonization to show that it wasn't as bad as the liberal states were predicting. Florida hasn't done very well with COVID [1]. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=(None)&show=us-states&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-all&extra=Florida#states-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-...

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Not bad enough to warrant lockdowns and perpetual mask mandates. California and New York lifted their covid restrictions the past few weeks... even though the pandemic is not over... Florida and Texas were right.
- tzs 5y ago
  They are lifting restrictions because deaths and hospitalizations are coming down [1]. [1] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=(None)&show=agg-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-52wk-wks&extra=California%2CFlorida%2CNew%20York#states-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-...
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    2000 deaths a day. Still higher than most of the pandemic over the last two years. They're lifting them because they're realizing the restrictions are pointless and hopeless. Which means they were wrong all along and Tx and FL were right.