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Covid is an example where it has.

by sqqqqrly 5y ago

pavlov 5y ago
Are you suggesting American Covid-19 policies worked well? Almost a million people died from it in this country.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Everyone is now doing what Florida and Texas have been doing all along. There's a good chance Mask mandates and COVID restrictions would have been permanent if it was federal law. The freedom of ideas given via states rights allows for a wide variety of ideas to be tested which allows the best ideas to be selected. Instead of a federal law that stamps out any ideas but one. Thank goodness the rational headed members of the Surpreme court ruled against vaccine mandates as well despite Sotomayor falsely claiming that there's 100,000 children on ventilators.
  - SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
    > There's a good chance Mask mandates and COVID restrictions would have been permanent if it was federal law Do you have any evidence this is the case? Current federal institutions have fluctuated their guidelines, the opposite of permanency.
    - edmcnulty101 5y ago
      Liberal states (and countries) were absolutely brutal with their Covid response. It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of mass sensationalism and demonization to show that it wasn't as bad as the liberal states were predicting. With the Liberals taking both branches of federal congress and the presidency it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. They tried to put through a federal vaccine mandate which was struck down by the courts on grounds of....federal overreach. And now thanks to conservative governors and states rights we can all live our normal lives again because everyone is falling in line with those conservative states who were brave enough to stand up against the crazy liberal policies. This applies to defunding the police as well. Many of the liberal states that implemented defunding the police are changing that as well. Sensational policy making appears to be a pattern with liberal states which is why states rights are beautiful. It highlights poor policy making. It is a double edged sword though because liberal states have many good policies. The point is having a variety in policies leads to richer, better governing.
      - kmos17 5y ago
        There is nothing brave about republican governors in majority republican states following the misinformed party line for political brownie points on mask mandates and vaccines, in fact the exact opposite would have been brave and saved thousands of lives. Maybe now the approach makes more sense since vaccination rates are higher but it certainly did not at the time.
        edmcnulty101 5y ago
        Vaccinations rates are 65% of the population only 15% higher than 6 months ago. Deaths are between 1500 and 2000 a day across the U.S..... higher than all but 3 to 5 months of the 2 year pandemic. The people who are going for misinformed political brownie points are the Liberal states who know if they don't lift the covid restrictions during a voting year they will be removed from office which is extremely sick and hypocritical if you ask me, especially after demonizing republicans who stuck to their priniciples.
        kmos17 5y ago
        The 2k deaths per day are vast majority unvaccinated, republican governors in those states are partly directly responsible for the low vaccination rates by participating in this madness of misinformation and partisanship. These people should not be dying at this point if it were not for this propaganda.
        edmcnulty101 5y ago
        And yet New York and California are lifting their COVID restrictions even though this is not over.
      - ykevinator2 5y ago
        It is science not liberal. The hospitals were full of dead and dying. Macho dullards are not heroic they're misinformed and leading the dumb over a cliff.
- qzx_pierri 5y ago
  - thatswrong0 5y ago
    It’s pretty audacious to post an article as a source that actually debunks your misinformation at the bottom: > Missing context. The 6% figure used by users online to calculate COVID-19-only deaths originates from a 2020 database and represents the percentage of death certificates with COVID-19 listed as the only cause mentioned. This extrapolation is misleading, however, and doesn’t take into account that conditions listed in a death certificate may be caused by the virus itself. While a comorbidity may cause someone to be at higher risk of COVID-19, the comorbidity is not necessarily the cause of death.

Covid is an example where it has.

pavlov 5y ago

Are you suggesting American Covid-19 policies worked well? Almost a million people died from it in this country.

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Everyone is now doing what Florida and Texas have been doing all along. There's a good chance Mask mandates and COVID restrictions would have been permanent if it was federal law. The freedom of ideas given via states rights allows for a wide variety of ideas to be tested which allows the best ideas to be selected. Instead of a federal law that stamps out any ideas but one. Thank goodness the rational headed members of the Surpreme court ruled against vaccine mandates as well despite Sotomayor falsely claiming that there's 100,000 children on ventilators.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  > There's a good chance Mask mandates and COVID restrictions would have been permanent if it was federal law Do you have any evidence this is the case? Current federal institutions have fluctuated their guidelines, the opposite of permanency.
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    Liberal states (and countries) were absolutely brutal with their Covid response. It took the brave governors of Texas and Florida to open up during a time of mass sensationalism and demonization to show that it wasn't as bad as the liberal states were predicting. With the Liberals taking both branches of federal congress and the presidency it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. They tried to put through a federal vaccine mandate which was struck down by the courts on grounds of....federal overreach. And now thanks to conservative governors and states rights we can all live our normal lives again because everyone is falling in line with those conservative states who were brave enough to stand up against the crazy liberal policies. This applies to defunding the police as well. Many of the liberal states that implemented defunding the police are changing that as well. Sensational policy making appears to be a pattern with liberal states which is why states rights are beautiful. It highlights poor policy making. It is a double edged sword though because liberal states have many good policies. The point is having a variety in policies leads to richer, better governing.
    - kmos17 5y ago
      There is nothing brave about republican governors in majority republican states following the misinformed party line for political brownie points on mask mandates and vaccines, in fact the exact opposite would have been brave and saved thousands of lives. Maybe now the approach makes more sense since vaccination rates are higher but it certainly did not at the time.
      - edmcnulty101 5y ago
        Vaccinations rates are 65% of the population only 15% higher than 6 months ago. Deaths are between 1500 and 2000 a day across the U.S..... higher than all but 3 to 5 months of the 2 year pandemic. The people who are going for misinformed political brownie points are the Liberal states who know if they don't lift the covid restrictions during a voting year they will be removed from office which is extremely sick and hypocritical if you ask me, especially after demonizing republicans who stuck to their priniciples.
        kmos17 5y ago
        The 2k deaths per day are vast majority unvaccinated, republican governors in those states are partly directly responsible for the low vaccination rates by participating in this madness of misinformation and partisanship. These people should not be dying at this point if it were not for this propaganda.
        edmcnulty101 5y ago
        And yet New York and California are lifting their COVID restrictions even though this is not over.
    - ykevinator2 5y ago
      It is science not liberal. The hospitals were full of dead and dying. Macho dullards are not heroic they're misinformed and leading the dumb over a cliff.
qzx_pierri 5y ago
- thatswrong0 5y ago
  It’s pretty audacious to post an article as a source that actually debunks your misinformation at the bottom: > Missing context. The 6% figure used by users online to calculate COVID-19-only deaths originates from a 2020 database and represents the percentage of death certificates with COVID-19 listed as the only cause mentioned. This extrapolation is misleading, however, and doesn’t take into account that conditions listed in a death certificate may be caused by the virus itself. While a comorbidity may cause someone to be at higher risk of COVID-19, the comorbidity is not necessarily the cause of death.