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> Ukraine doesn't prefer the Russian model to keep people poor and stupid, so they wouldn't protest. The recent western model is one of the most debilitating m

> Ukraine doesn't prefer the Russian model to keep people poor and stupid, so they wouldn't protest. The recent western model is one of the most debilitating model mankind has ever known.

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Richest people in the West aren't politicians even. Putin is the richest in Russia. I think that says more than what you are claiming ( without proof).
- rastignack 5y ago
  It’s mainly the « stupid » part I’m questioning. And the politicians in the west are in the hands of the richest. I’m not saying Russia is better. Only that the west is dumber and dumber. Less and less educated. We should not be arrogant.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    Euh, less educated? Seriously? Which metrics are you even using? It's not universities for sure. 50% of Russia is under propaganda and can't even talk English. The ones that can speak English and have engineering degrees, a large part of them are currently fleeing Russia. The other halve doesn't even know what is going to hit them ( jobs, economy, ... ). Favorite destination seems to be Europe, Canada, US, ... According to what I see in preferences of resumees. And I'm seeing a lot of resumees coming in. Turkeye and Georgia is pretty popular too, but I'd think it's easier to get there too ( flights), could be wrong about this though. Edit: removed links to 3 GitHub resumees of Russian engineers uploaded within the last 2 hours ( in English). From engineers that worked at zg. Google/Yandex and want to get out of the country.
    - rastignack 5y ago
      > Euh, less educated? Seriously? I’m talking about huge IQ drops. About the language skills in all the western world. Just listen to cnn, fox news, to the charts’ lyrics and so forth. It’s staggering. Also, speaking English is in no way a prerequisite for a good education.
      - NicoJuicy 5y ago
        Sure, ignore my university comment... Fyi. I speak dutch, french, English. I'm able to communicate in German and I understand Spanish a bit (pero no habla ). Most people here speak at 2-3 languages by default. So I would say it counts as education level :)
        rastignack 5y ago
        I’d say having the best universities in his country does not make the average joe more intelligent. And while we are discussing the sex of the angels as byzantines, to an incredible toxic degree, even in our top universities, we might lose some clout. Also: I know some elders who read Cicero in Latin but do not speak English. Classical teachings matter.

> Ukraine doesn't prefer the Russian model to keep people poor and stupid, so they wouldn't protest. The recent western model is one of the most debilitating model mankind has ever known.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

Richest people in the West aren't politicians even. Putin is the richest in Russia. I think that says more than what you are claiming ( without proof).

rastignack 5y ago
It’s mainly the « stupid » part I’m questioning. And the politicians in the west are in the hands of the richest. I’m not saying Russia is better. Only that the west is dumber and dumber. Less and less educated. We should not be arrogant.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Euh, less educated? Seriously? Which metrics are you even using? It's not universities for sure. 50% of Russia is under propaganda and can't even talk English. The ones that can speak English and have engineering degrees, a large part of them are currently fleeing Russia. The other halve doesn't even know what is going to hit them ( jobs, economy, ... ). Favorite destination seems to be Europe, Canada, US, ... According to what I see in preferences of resumees. And I'm seeing a lot of resumees coming in. Turkeye and Georgia is pretty popular too, but I'd think it's easier to get there too ( flights), could be wrong about this though. Edit: removed links to 3 GitHub resumees of Russian engineers uploaded within the last 2 hours ( in English). From engineers that worked at zg. Google/Yandex and want to get out of the country.
  - rastignack 5y ago
    > Euh, less educated? Seriously? I’m talking about huge IQ drops. About the language skills in all the western world. Just listen to cnn, fox news, to the charts’ lyrics and so forth. It’s staggering. Also, speaking English is in no way a prerequisite for a good education.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      Sure, ignore my university comment... Fyi. I speak dutch, french, English. I'm able to communicate in German and I understand Spanish a bit (pero no habla ). Most people here speak at 2-3 languages by default. So I would say it counts as education level :)
      - rastignack 5y ago
        I’d say having the best universities in his country does not make the average joe more intelligent. And while we are discussing the sex of the angels as byzantines, to an incredible toxic degree, even in our top universities, we might lose some clout. Also: I know some elders who read Cicero in Latin but do not speak English. Classical teachings matter.