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Not only where is our humanity. But also: Where is our thinking? I think we are in danger of applying the wrong lesson from history. People today say you cann
by leobg 5y ago
Not only where is our humanity. But also: Where is our thinking?
I think we are in danger of applying the wrong lesson from history.
People today say you cannot be a "Putin apologizer", or that looking for reasons for Putin's behavior was a form of "appeasement".
People who say these things believe they have learned from history. They look back at Hitler in 1938. Czechoslovakia. Austria. And, finally, Poland.
They look back at England and France, who, not wanting to risk war, sought ways to "appease" Hitler. And by doing that, they lost valuable time and allowed Hitler to grow stronger, making the situation much worse for the world.
Now, people are drawing the conclusion: "You should never try to appease a dictator!"
But I'd argue that this is the wrong conclusion.
What backfired back then is not that England and France tried to appease Hitler. What backfired was that the leaders of England and France grotesquely misread Hitler and his goals.
Their mistake was not that they tried to understand Hitler's motives. Rather, their mistake was precisely that they failed to accurately understand his motives. They did not do too much understanding. They did too little.
This is why the English public finally turned to Churchill. Because Churchill actually "grokked" Hitler:
He had formed an accurate mental model of Hitler's motives.
Did that make Churchill into a "Hitler apologist"? Not at all. Instead, it allowed him to accurately predict Hitler's next moves. It allowed him to predict that making territorial concessions to this man would never help to guarantee peace long-term.
Churchill was actually one of the few European leaders who had troubled to read "Mein Kampf". He also read the books written by Sebastian Haffner, a German who had chronicled his life under Hitler from inside Germany.
Whereas the others sought to resolve the situation by ignoring and disengaging, Churchill engaged with Hitler's thoughts. And he did so intimately and with a grave sense of personal responsibility for the outcome of this conflict (even though he did not start it).
When I see people today saying they cannot stand Putin, and therefore they don't want to hear what he says, because it's all lies and propaganda anyway, that worries me.
Even if Putin was a Hitler 2.0 (which is very doubtful, since History rarely repeats itself and reasoning by analogy often leads to spectacular failures), then that would mean that we should pay even more careful attention to his motives, and not less. We should pay even more careful attention on the outside contingencies and the mental frameworks that drive Putin's actions, and not less.
Nietzsche has said, "If you look into the abyss, the abyss looks back into you." And it almost seems that people are afraid of precisely that. They almost think that by not acknowledging a thing they don't like, it will go away.
Those who have been warning about a war in Ukraine have correctly pointed out that this strategy will not only not work. But that it will backfire.
So the true lesson from 1938 is not that one should "never negotiate with dictators".
The true lesson is that you have to make an effort to face the other party's viewpoint. To make an effort to understand the true motives, without any fear of what you might find.
That includes the fear of finding out that your own behavior might have contributed to the status quo. You need to let go of your comforting beliefs -- that things will "sort themselves out", that it's "just the other party's fault", that there's "nothing to learn or understand" because you already know exactly what the other party is really after, etc..
What made Churchill great, in my view, is that he was able to overcome all of those comforting beliefs. People respected him because he would tell them not what they would have liked to hear, but what they needed to know, and needed to face.
I think this is very, very different from what we're seeing today from our own leaders.
Our leaders are posturing. They claim that the inconvenient truth is that "Putin is worse than we thought", and that the necessary sanctions will require "sacrifices from all of us".
They try to sound like a Churchill. But they make no effort to be one. They imitate the outside posture, but they totally miss the inner essence.
Scholz said something very revealing. He said to Putin during that recent press conference (and I'm paraphrasing), "What do you care about Ukraine and NATO? It's not going to happen anytime during our terms of office anyway".
That isn't Churchill. That's Chamberlain.
- SCHiM 5y agoThe only "viewpoint" espoused by Putin since 2008 is that of imperialistic belligerent expansion into other countries, in a bid to recapture the former "glory" of the Russian empire, not USSR, empire. What do you mean learning from history? The historic parallels to another leader are so overwhelming that I'm not even going to point them out to you. Their "viewpoint" is that other, free, people should be forced with violence to bow to his will.
- belter 5y agoThis is a good analysis. There is an interview from today from Durão Barroso that was President of the European Commission for two terms. He says in 2014 Putin told him: "I could take Kiev in 2 weeks if I wanted to" https://www.portugalresident.com/durao-barroso-warns-we-cant-exclude-anything-with-putin/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=durao-barroso-warns-we-cant-exclude-anything-with-putin https://www.portugalresident.com/durao-barroso-warns-we-cant... https://expresso.pt/internacional/entrevista-durao-barroso-lembra-o-que-putin-lhe-disse-podiamos-tomar-kiev-em-menos-de-duas-semanas-e-avisa-temos-de-levar-mais-a-serio-as-declaracoes-dele/ https://expresso.pt/internacional/entrevista-durao-barroso-l...
- belter 5y agoExcerpt from the interview: Q:"What has changed? has Putin changed?" A:"...Some say that the man himself has changed: has Putin changed or the situation? Both things changed. President Putin, whom I knew until 2014, was the leader outside the EU I met the most. My office counted 25 times. But what has changed is, above all, his perception of the circumstances. The Putin I knew was a person with a deep resentment against Russian decadence. He himself said publicly that the greatest tragedy of the 20th century was the collapse of the USSR, not because of the collapse of communism, but because many Russians were left outside their homeland, and their Russian citizenship was not recognized. He's a man deeply scarred by resentment, but he's also someone who made rational calculations in terms of weighing the costs and benefits of each decision, and tactically seeing how far he could go..."
- simion314 5y agoPutin has no right to conquer free nations. You are wrong to say that nobody wants to talk with him and understand his perspective, that somehow drinking a glass with Putin you will understand that he just wants to make URSS great again and some millions of free people don't want to get sacrificed for it. Putin is not some new piece on the table and this is not his first move, he done many moves so far and somewhere a line must be drawn. I understand though that some people far away from this region would be happy to sacrifice Ukraine,Moldova maybe some Nordic countries just to keep Putin happy a few more years, but when do we say: enough, we don't want to do business with war criminals, we don't want to kiss killers asses anymore. Sure the innocent Russian citizens will suffer but that is preferable. What is your solution though? And what countries would you sacrifice? How many people would be enough for you to say "I won't send our kids to fight but maybe I could be OK not to do business with this criminals" ?