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I think the difference is that western media generally can and do publish at least some critical pieces. The same can't be said in Russia right now. It's a whol

by avh02 5y ago

I think the difference is that western media generally can and do publish at least some critical pieces. The same can't be said in Russia right now. It's a whole different level.

IMSAI8080 5y ago
Exactly. Just before the war kicked off, the BBC was doing nothing but hammering the UK prime minister on various matters. How many Putin critical articles did RT or Sputnik news post?
- mediumsmart 5y ago
  They don't criticise Putin. They write about the criticism he receives. Kind of like a news outlet would. https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/05/the-predictable-demise-of-rt-america/ https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/05/the-predictable-demise...
  - IMSAI8080 5y ago
    Any writing "about the criticism he receives" is to deflect it. The state run channels are never critical of Putin because he controls the channels.
aix1 5y ago
And, just to be clear, "can't be said of Russia right now" really means "publishing information that disagrees with the official line is punishable by up to 15 years in prison". https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-let-eto-feik https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-l... Translation: https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-let-eto-feik?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i...
- severino 5y ago
  The same happens in the "free" and "democratic" EU too (which I belong to): https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-atbalstu-soctiklos-un-citur-latvija-jazino-atbildigajam-instancem https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-... Translation: https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-atbalstu-soctiklos-un-citur-latvija-jazino-atbildigajam-instancem?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=gl&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-kriev...
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    That took me by surprise.
  - dTal 5y ago
    That is not the same.
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      It's pretty similar. Latvia is not in a state war and is banning certain political opinions. No matter how vile, that is a line that should never be crossed outside of literal wartime.
2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
It's not just the media. Most western countries have entire opposition political parties. And regular citizens bad mouth their leaders all the time with no fear of repercussions. I directly hassle the leaders of my country on their official twitter accounts. There could be a small chance that not being moral absolutists on this issue could be a slippery slope, but it's still not the same.

by avh02 5y ago

I think the difference is that western media generally can and do publish at least some critical pieces. The same can't be said in Russia right now. It's a whole different level.

IMSAI8080 5y ago

Exactly. Just before the war kicked off, the BBC was doing nothing but hammering the UK prime minister on various matters. How many Putin critical articles did RT or Sputnik news post?

mediumsmart 5y ago
They don't criticise Putin. They write about the criticism he receives. Kind of like a news outlet would. https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/05/the-predictable-demise-of-rt-america/ https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/05/the-predictable-demise...
- IMSAI8080 5y ago
  Any writing "about the criticism he receives" is to deflect it. The state run channels are never critical of Putin because he controls the channels.

aix1 5y ago

And, just to be clear, "can't be said of Russia right now" really means "publishing information that disagrees with the official line is punishable by up to 15 years in prison". https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-let-eto-feik https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-l... Translation: https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i-vse-ravno-15-let-eto-feik?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://novayagazeta-ru.translate.goog/articles/2022/03/04/i...

severino 5y ago
The same happens in the "free" and "democratic" EU too (which I belong to): https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-atbalstu-soctiklos-un-citur-latvija-jazino-atbildigajam-instancem https://www.la.lv/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-... Translation: https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-krievijas-agresijas-atbalstu-soctiklos-un-citur-latvija-jazino-atbildigajam-instancem?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=gl&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-la-lv.translate.goog/par-dezinformaciju-un-kriev...
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  That took me by surprise.
- dTal 5y ago
  That is not the same.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    It's pretty similar. Latvia is not in a state war and is banning certain political opinions. No matter how vile, that is a line that should never be crossed outside of literal wartime.

2muchcoffeeman 5y ago

It's not just the media. Most western countries have entire opposition political parties. And regular citizens bad mouth their leaders all the time with no fear of repercussions. I directly hassle the leaders of my country on their official twitter accounts. There could be a small chance that not being moral absolutists on this issue could be a slippery slope, but it's still not the same.