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Fuck YouTube. If they're going to control what news I get, I'll choose other than YouTube. I do not need them. I have read from both hard left and hard right

Fuck YouTube. If they're going to control what news I get, I'll choose other than YouTube. I do not need them. I have read from both hard left and hard right, and am intelligent enough to make my own decisions about what makes sense. Let them play their games, whether silly or dangerous. I form my own opinions. Losers!

hankman86 5y ago
Agree - I don’t need some “ministry of truth”. Figured out for myself that these “alternative” news shows on YouTube (The Hill, Breaking Points etc.) are populist garbage. This isn’t journalism, but sensationalist cherry-picking of facts with an unhealthy dose of opinion sprinkled on top. All that being said: i think that censorship does way more harm than whatever nonsense these channels put out.
- imnotlost 5y ago
  It’s an advertising business. They sell advertising. Everything else is filler between the ads. Network news runs on the same model. Sometimes the filler (news or other content) is good but not always.
  - cudgy 5y ago
    My understanding is that Breaking Points at least is mostly funded by direct donations to purposely protect them from censorship by YouTube. I take their perspectives with a grain of salt and their discussions can get long winded. However, in comparison to main stream media, these programs provide far more detail and context than a 2 minute soundbite of talking points straight from the White House or the CIA.
- bradlys 5y ago
  While good for you to figure things out - I’m surrounded by people who don’t have the skills for that. How do you solve that? Education? Too late - they’re adults.
px43 5y ago
This isn't about you, it's about the 30-40% of YouTube users who don't have that skill, and become radicalized and violent when stupid bullshit like this starts gaining traction. YouTube isn't a news network. It's a video platform catering to a global audience, many of whom are really really bad critical thinking. Same with Facebook. We all know what happens when content isn't curated, and it's really, really bad. I'm glad that you're an adult and can make your own grown up decisions, and actually get news from a wide range of sources, and curate it yourself. I obviously wish everyone had that skill, but they don't, and it's actually really really dangerous to take that privilege you've earned for granted.
- mohanmcgeek 5y ago
  > the 30-40% of YouTube users who don't have that skill, Who are you or YouTube to make this judgement? More often than not, the "I'm smarter than the average person" types are the ones making the worst decisions.
  - brnt 5y ago
    There is plenty of research supporting this thesis.
    - Throwawayaerlei 5y ago
      And you don't need to do any research harder than reading history to see this in LBJ's prosecution of the Vietnam war with the "best and brightest" he inherited from JFK.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      When will the egotistical narcissism stop? This type of “I’m better than you” talk is not acceptable when it comes to race, how come it’s acceptable when the subject is intelligence?
      - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
        If we extrapolate this, these narcissists would be asking for an end to the Universal adult franchise and say that only the "properly informed" people should be allowed to vote. I've heard this argument in my country already from certain circles
edmundsauto 5y ago
You form fewer of your opinions than you think. YouTube is taking responsibility for their platform, and I encourage you to show your displeasure to them. I also encourage them to form their own opinions. If you form your own opinions through a mediator, you will be deceived. If you form it via direct connection, you will be overwhelmed. Nothing is new or old, here. It is just difficult to have good opinions while also not letting your platform be abused.

hankman86 5y ago

Agree - I don’t need some “ministry of truth”. Figured out for myself that these “alternative” news shows on YouTube (The Hill, Breaking Points etc.) are populist garbage. This isn’t journalism, but sensationalist cherry-picking of facts with an unhealthy dose of opinion sprinkled on top. All that being said: i think that censorship does way more harm than whatever nonsense these channels put out.

imnotlost 5y ago
It’s an advertising business. They sell advertising. Everything else is filler between the ads. Network news runs on the same model. Sometimes the filler (news or other content) is good but not always.
- cudgy 5y ago
  My understanding is that Breaking Points at least is mostly funded by direct donations to purposely protect them from censorship by YouTube. I take their perspectives with a grain of salt and their discussions can get long winded. However, in comparison to main stream media, these programs provide far more detail and context than a 2 minute soundbite of talking points straight from the White House or the CIA.
bradlys 5y ago
While good for you to figure things out - I’m surrounded by people who don’t have the skills for that. How do you solve that? Education? Too late - they’re adults.

px43 5y ago

This isn't about you, it's about the 30-40% of YouTube users who don't have that skill, and become radicalized and violent when stupid bullshit like this starts gaining traction. YouTube isn't a news network. It's a video platform catering to a global audience, many of whom are really really bad critical thinking. Same with Facebook. We all know what happens when content isn't curated, and it's really, really bad. I'm glad that you're an adult and can make your own grown up decisions, and actually get news from a wide range of sources, and curate it yourself. I obviously wish everyone had that skill, but they don't, and it's actually really really dangerous to take that privilege you've earned for granted.

mohanmcgeek 5y ago
> the 30-40% of YouTube users who don't have that skill, Who are you or YouTube to make this judgement? More often than not, the "I'm smarter than the average person" types are the ones making the worst decisions.
- brnt 5y ago
  There is plenty of research supporting this thesis.
  - Throwawayaerlei 5y ago
    And you don't need to do any research harder than reading history to see this in LBJ's prosecution of the Vietnam war with the "best and brightest" he inherited from JFK.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    When will the egotistical narcissism stop? This type of “I’m better than you” talk is not acceptable when it comes to race, how come it’s acceptable when the subject is intelligence?
    - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
      If we extrapolate this, these narcissists would be asking for an end to the Universal adult franchise and say that only the "properly informed" people should be allowed to vote. I've heard this argument in my country already from certain circles

edmundsauto 5y ago

You form fewer of your opinions than you think. YouTube is taking responsibility for their platform, and I encourage you to show your displeasure to them. I also encourage them to form their own opinions. If you form your own opinions through a mediator, you will be deceived. If you form it via direct connection, you will be overwhelmed. Nothing is new or old, here. It is just difficult to have good opinions while also not letting your platform be abused.