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Don't they have the game on android already? This is the most stupid statement i ever read, no wonder why their anti-cheat is considered as being useless lol

Don't they have the game on android already? This is the most stupid statement i ever read, no wonder why their anti-cheat is considered as being useless lol You only need to sniff network and proxy packets to bypass all their junk, same story with Valorant, their kernel driver is the most useless thing i ever saw That's what happen when you don't want to invest into security, you let your CEO hold stupid statements

phendrenad2 5y ago
Good sniffing proxy packets without getting noticed when there's a kernel module inspecting the running processes on your computer. Almost like that's the point of the kernel driver.
- Shadonototra 5y ago
  That doesn't matter AT ALL, i hope you don't work for EPIC or Riot security team, because that'd be very sad.. https://valorantradar.com/ https://valorantradar.com/ The only way to protect an online game is by hardening your SERVER SIDE logic Even cloud-gaming you can cheat easily by reading pixels, even easier and more performant with machine learning helpers Focus on your logic on the server, stop thinking you can put a lock on my PC, it's a lost fight And even then, there are HW tools to cheat, let's not talk about HDMI hacks
  - phendrenad2 5y ago
    Okay but that's just goalpost moving. I say you can't snoop packets and you move on to talking about HDMI hacks. You're missing the point in your haste to win the argument though: HDMI hacks present a barrier to entry, because now the player needs to buy specialized hardware. Also they won't work as well as packet sniffing (you can't as easily predict where a player is, since you only have pixel information and not skeleton information). Anti-cheat "works" by preventing the majority of players from cheating. The goal isn't to eliminate all cheating. If you can eliminate 99% of cheating using a rootkit, then that rootkit is definitely worth it.
    - Shadonototra 5y ago
      > Okay but that's just goalpost moving. I say you can't snoop packets and you move on to talking about HDMI hacks. You just don't read what I said/linked Connect to a VPN and let an external service handle all that shit for you, transparently, your client anti-cheat is useless > Anti-cheat "works" by preventing the majority of players from cheating. The goal isn't to eliminate all cheating. If you can eliminate 99% of cheating using a rootkit, then that rootkit is definitely worth it. I agree with you on that, except for the last part, you now affect your legit users, and give them false hope of never playing against cheaters
mackatap 5y ago
It is on android, but it will not work if USB debugging or other developer options are enabled.

phendrenad2 5y ago

Good sniffing proxy packets without getting noticed when there's a kernel module inspecting the running processes on your computer. Almost like that's the point of the kernel driver.

Shadonototra 5y ago
That doesn't matter AT ALL, i hope you don't work for EPIC or Riot security team, because that'd be very sad.. https://valorantradar.com/ https://valorantradar.com/ The only way to protect an online game is by hardening your SERVER SIDE logic Even cloud-gaming you can cheat easily by reading pixels, even easier and more performant with machine learning helpers Focus on your logic on the server, stop thinking you can put a lock on my PC, it's a lost fight And even then, there are HW tools to cheat, let's not talk about HDMI hacks
- phendrenad2 5y ago
  Okay but that's just goalpost moving. I say you can't snoop packets and you move on to talking about HDMI hacks. You're missing the point in your haste to win the argument though: HDMI hacks present a barrier to entry, because now the player needs to buy specialized hardware. Also they won't work as well as packet sniffing (you can't as easily predict where a player is, since you only have pixel information and not skeleton information). Anti-cheat "works" by preventing the majority of players from cheating. The goal isn't to eliminate all cheating. If you can eliminate 99% of cheating using a rootkit, then that rootkit is definitely worth it.
  - Shadonototra 5y ago
    > Okay but that's just goalpost moving. I say you can't snoop packets and you move on to talking about HDMI hacks. You just don't read what I said/linked Connect to a VPN and let an external service handle all that shit for you, transparently, your client anti-cheat is useless > Anti-cheat "works" by preventing the majority of players from cheating. The goal isn't to eliminate all cheating. If you can eliminate 99% of cheating using a rootkit, then that rootkit is definitely worth it. I agree with you on that, except for the last part, you now affect your legit users, and give them false hope of never playing against cheaters

mackatap 5y ago

It is on android, but it will not work if USB debugging or other developer options are enabled.