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Nobody is talking about the elephant in the room: remote work has led to a lot of people slacking off, working less, doing errands, taking more time for lunch,

Nobody is talking about the elephant in the room: remote work has led to a lot of people slacking off, working less, doing errands, taking more time for lunch, etc. while you may not do this, I think we vastly underestimate how many people are using remote work as an opportunity to work less, and coast through the day

austincheney 5y ago
I don’t work more going into an office. I just fill the gaps in more satisfactory ways while working from home instead of shorter office hours with long walks around the campus.
Wiseacre 5y ago
For those this is true for there is another elephant in the room: Are companies that embrace remote work simply better at finding mature employees? Otherwise remote employers would clearly be getting outperformed by in-office ones if remote workers were actually less productive.
jdrc 5y ago
working less doesnt mean producing less
gnz11 5y ago
Nobody is talking about it because in-office workers run errands, slack off and coast through day as well. This is nothing new. The movie Office Space even made jokes about this back in 1999 [1]. However, what you seem to be advocating for, whether intended or not, is more micromanagement. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfTrjPSShs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfTrjPSShs
crate_barre 5y ago
I got news for you, I have perfected not doing shit in the office.
ozzythecat 5y ago
I see the same problem. Reviewing some internal metrics, at least half the team members were basically producing nothing. No artifacts of any kind over months on end. Overall productivity was the same. The remaining folks were producing significantly more and burning out. They actually lost work life balance, working way beyond 9-5 hours. In this case, I don’t think my company has figured out how to manage remote workers. Even the direct managers appear checked out, delegating their own responsibilities to this group of ICs who are burned out.
joegahona 5y ago
I hate to admit it, but this is what I see too -- and it's not only the coasting employees who are doing this. WFH has made it OK to join meetings from a crappy cellphone connection while en route to karate class or whatever, and all this corner-cutting is diminishing the quality of communication and interactions. I can't recall how many times I've had something important to walk through on my screen during a meeting, but half the call can't see it because they're on a phone. (And yep, it's shared before the actual meeting, but not everyone prepares.) All other things being equal, does anyone think a remote team will out-perform a company who's all in the same office? We might be in for a giant game of Chicken as companies keep tabs on what their competitors are doing, and copy.
objevt 5y ago
r/HailCorporate
andrei_says_ 5y ago
At my company, productivity has close to doubled. I know for myself that I’m more focused and more tenacious from home. Our profits are through the roof. I think people are delighted to skip their 2+ hour commutes and double down on work instead.

austincheney 5y ago

I don’t work more going into an office. I just fill the gaps in more satisfactory ways while working from home instead of shorter office hours with long walks around the campus.

Wiseacre 5y ago

For those this is true for there is another elephant in the room: Are companies that embrace remote work simply better at finding mature employees? Otherwise remote employers would clearly be getting outperformed by in-office ones if remote workers were actually less productive.

jdrc 5y ago

working less doesnt mean producing less

gnz11 5y ago

Nobody is talking about it because in-office workers run errands, slack off and coast through day as well. This is nothing new. The movie Office Space even made jokes about this back in 1999 [1]. However, what you seem to be advocating for, whether intended or not, is more micromanagement. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfTrjPSShs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfTrjPSShs

crate_barre 5y ago

I got news for you, I have perfected not doing shit in the office.

ozzythecat 5y ago

I see the same problem. Reviewing some internal metrics, at least half the team members were basically producing nothing. No artifacts of any kind over months on end. Overall productivity was the same. The remaining folks were producing significantly more and burning out. They actually lost work life balance, working way beyond 9-5 hours. In this case, I don’t think my company has figured out how to manage remote workers. Even the direct managers appear checked out, delegating their own responsibilities to this group of ICs who are burned out.

joegahona 5y ago

I hate to admit it, but this is what I see too -- and it's not only the coasting employees who are doing this. WFH has made it OK to join meetings from a crappy cellphone connection while en route to karate class or whatever, and all this corner-cutting is diminishing the quality of communication and interactions. I can't recall how many times I've had something important to walk through on my screen during a meeting, but half the call can't see it because they're on a phone. (And yep, it's shared before the actual meeting, but not everyone prepares.) All other things being equal, does anyone think a remote team will out-perform a company who's all in the same office? We might be in for a giant game of Chicken as companies keep tabs on what their competitors are doing, and copy.

objevt 5y ago

r/HailCorporate

andrei_says_ 5y ago

At my company, productivity has close to doubled. I know for myself that I’m more focused and more tenacious from home. Our profits are through the roof. I think people are delighted to skip their 2+ hour commutes and double down on work instead.