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> They were just out shelling the nuclear facility when they could make some strategic strikes. Were they? https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-usa-n

> They were just out shelling the nuclear facility when they could make some strategic strikes. Were they? https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-usa-nuclear-energy-idUKW1N2U401C https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-usa-nuclear-e...

Spooky23 5y ago
The headline is really awful. The brief article walks it back a bit. Sorta like saying, the burglar didn’t steal from mysecretaccount2’s house, just the garage.
JamesLeonis 5y ago
There was a firefight last night close to those reactors. The battle was over a museum nearby. Here's a twitter thread with the original live stream CCTV footage, clips, and just-in-time analysis in the thread and comments [0] [1] [0]: https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499527941377732609 https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499527941377732609 [1]: https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499545373744017424 https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499545373744017424
throwoutway 5y ago
I read the article you linked. It says yes they attacked using small arms, but did not attack the reactors themselves. The OP indicated shelling, so you are correct that OP is not accurate. The video I saw showed a flare, which seems to be how the fire started. Firefighters were unable to get to it because of the battle. Either way, why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility. Completely absurd
- aaron695 5y ago
- lenkite 5y ago
  They received fire from a building adjoining the facility and they responded - just like any other military would do.
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  Both sides think the other side might use nuclear power plants as a dirty bomb. Anyway if the Russians want to control all the country they can't let a nuclear power plant left alone, it's a strategic asset.
- hollerith 5y ago
  >why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility Maybe Russia is worried that Ukraine might have been covertly developing nuclear weapons, and they don't want to give the Ukrainians any more time to hide the evidence.
- caeril 5y ago
  > Either way, why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility. In WW2, on Okinawa and various other islands, the Japanese had set up nursing stations and other logistics inside natural cave structures, staffed largely by civilians, and of those, largely by women, some with children in tow. When the Allied forces pushed onto these islands, the Japanese reasoned that if they retreated into these caves and placed the civilians in front of the forces, the Allies wouldn't have the heart to firebomb and/or shoot innocents in order to get to the fighting forces. This reasoning was faulty, as MacArthur and others below him in the CoC ordered the massacre of countless civilians to finish the job. Facts on the ground are sketchy, but my understanding is that the Ukrainian forces made a similar gamble, that "if we retreat into a nuclear power plant, nobody would be dumb enough to fire on our position here", and that they were as wrong as the Japanese. This is a common gamble that tacticians make, betting on the better angels of our nature to not do horrible things. But we're barely-evolved monkeys, and this gamble is almost always wrong.

Spooky23 5y ago

The headline is really awful. The brief article walks it back a bit. Sorta like saying, the burglar didn’t steal from mysecretaccount2’s house, just the garage.

JamesLeonis 5y ago

There was a firefight last night close to those reactors. The battle was over a museum nearby. Here's a twitter thread with the original live stream CCTV footage, clips, and just-in-time analysis in the thread and comments [0] [1] [0]: https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499527941377732609 https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499527941377732609 [1]: https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499545373744017424 https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1499545373744017424

throwoutway 5y ago

I read the article you linked. It says yes they attacked using small arms, but did not attack the reactors themselves. The OP indicated shelling, so you are correct that OP is not accurate. The video I saw showed a flare, which seems to be how the fire started. Firefighters were unable to get to it because of the battle. Either way, why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility. Completely absurd

aaron695 5y ago
lenkite 5y ago
They received fire from a building adjoining the facility and they responded - just like any other military would do.
jmnicolas 5y ago
Both sides think the other side might use nuclear power plants as a dirty bomb. Anyway if the Russians want to control all the country they can't let a nuclear power plant left alone, it's a strategic asset.
hollerith 5y ago
>why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility Maybe Russia is worried that Ukraine might have been covertly developing nuclear weapons, and they don't want to give the Ukrainians any more time to hide the evidence.
caeril 5y ago
> Either way, why on earth are invaders within the fence line of a nuclear facility. In WW2, on Okinawa and various other islands, the Japanese had set up nursing stations and other logistics inside natural cave structures, staffed largely by civilians, and of those, largely by women, some with children in tow. When the Allied forces pushed onto these islands, the Japanese reasoned that if they retreated into these caves and placed the civilians in front of the forces, the Allies wouldn't have the heart to firebomb and/or shoot innocents in order to get to the fighting forces. This reasoning was faulty, as MacArthur and others below him in the CoC ordered the massacre of countless civilians to finish the job. Facts on the ground are sketchy, but my understanding is that the Ukrainian forces made a similar gamble, that "if we retreat into a nuclear power plant, nobody would be dumb enough to fire on our position here", and that they were as wrong as the Japanese. This is a common gamble that tacticians make, betting on the better angels of our nature to not do horrible things. But we're barely-evolved monkeys, and this gamble is almost always wrong.