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> And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re go

> And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Seems to me like he is very clearly talking about the viability of injecting disinfectant.

DoctorOW 5y ago
The Politifact article even clarifies that Joe Biden's error was saying Trump advised "drinking bleach", as opposed to "express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection".
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billfor 5y ago
You admit his is talking clearly then? Many people seem to chose when to give him that consideration.
- virgildotcodes 5y ago
  You have to forgive his genius occasionally overwhelming the average human’s ability to comprehend speech. > “Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart —you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”
  - jquery 5y ago
    His cognitive ability was off the charts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uvwbd75ujU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uvwbd75ujU
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > Many people seem to chose when to give him that consideration. You mean everyone, from either tribe, when it suits them? Personally I always try to figure out what a politician is intending to say, even if they are only semi-coherent in conveying it. This is the leader of the free world, after all, with his finger on the button...
hunterb123 5y ago
He was talking about the viability of injecting UV disinfectant, not bleach. https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement-on-uv-a--technology/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement... This was released 3 days prior to his statement: https://irdirect.net/prviewer/release/id/4294930 https://irdirect.net/prviewer/release/id/4294930 > Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells UV light was mentioned prior in the presser. Trump wasn't specific, but you can't say he said inject bleach, read the transcript for yourself: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference-transcript-april-23 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... It's disingenuous to say he was suggesting for people to inject bleach or disinfectant. Even if he didn't clarify what disinfectant, he sure as hell didn't tell people to do anything, he was talking about research.
rhino369 5y ago
I don't really want to defend Trump, who is proudly stupid and mean spirited. But at bottom, it was a question about whether it was feasible, not a suggestion. And "something like that" in his statement is not necessarily just filler. Read charitably, he could be asking if a similar effect can be achieved with something else. We use some types of disinfectants for broadly similar effects--like mouth wash. In the past, we've used iodine to disinfect water for drinking, which was ingested. I'm not saying its a plausible strategy, but its not pants on fire stupid to wonder out-loud if you can get something like a disinfectant inside. I'd imagine you can't, but I can't articulate why you can't beyond the likelihood the required concentrations would destroy your bodies' cells too. I watched that press conference on tv when it aired. It wasn't even the top 20 dumbest things he said in that conference.
- notdonspaulding 5y ago
  This is the good faith interpretation. The more people learn to do this, the further we'll get in our discourse. I'd love to watch a breakdown of current news stories done with charitable interpretations only. Does anyone know of a news source that doesn't drop down into mischaracterizations of every opposing viewpoint?
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DoctorOW 5y ago

The Politifact article even clarifies that Joe Biden's error was saying Trump advised "drinking bleach", as opposed to "express interest in exploring whether disinfectants could be applied to the site of a coronavirus infection".

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billfor 5y ago

You admit his is talking clearly then? Many people seem to chose when to give him that consideration.

virgildotcodes 5y ago
You have to forgive his genius occasionally overwhelming the average human’s ability to comprehend speech. > “Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart —you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”
- jquery 5y ago
  His cognitive ability was off the charts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uvwbd75ujU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uvwbd75ujU
rootusrootus 5y ago
> Many people seem to chose when to give him that consideration. You mean everyone, from either tribe, when it suits them? Personally I always try to figure out what a politician is intending to say, even if they are only semi-coherent in conveying it. This is the leader of the free world, after all, with his finger on the button...

hunterb123 5y ago

He was talking about the viability of injecting UV disinfectant, not bleach. https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement-on-uv-a--technology/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement... This was released 3 days prior to his statement: https://irdirect.net/prviewer/release/id/4294930 https://irdirect.net/prviewer/release/id/4294930 > Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells UV light was mentioned prior in the presser. Trump wasn't specific, but you can't say he said inject bleach, read the transcript for yourself: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference-transcript-april-23 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... It's disingenuous to say he was suggesting for people to inject bleach or disinfectant. Even if he didn't clarify what disinfectant, he sure as hell didn't tell people to do anything, he was talking about research.

rhino369 5y ago

I don't really want to defend Trump, who is proudly stupid and mean spirited. But at bottom, it was a question about whether it was feasible, not a suggestion. And "something like that" in his statement is not necessarily just filler. Read charitably, he could be asking if a similar effect can be achieved with something else. We use some types of disinfectants for broadly similar effects--like mouth wash. In the past, we've used iodine to disinfect water for drinking, which was ingested. I'm not saying its a plausible strategy, but its not pants on fire stupid to wonder out-loud if you can get something like a disinfectant inside. I'd imagine you can't, but I can't articulate why you can't beyond the likelihood the required concentrations would destroy your bodies' cells too. I watched that press conference on tv when it aired. It wasn't even the top 20 dumbest things he said in that conference.

notdonspaulding 5y ago
This is the good faith interpretation. The more people learn to do this, the further we'll get in our discourse. I'd love to watch a breakdown of current news stories done with charitable interpretations only. Does anyone know of a news source that doesn't drop down into mischaracterizations of every opposing viewpoint?

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