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If remote really works and the market is fair, then this is a good opportunity to see evidence in its favor. Somehow, I don't think fully remote companies will

by nano9 5y ago

If remote really works and the market is fair, then this is a good opportunity to see evidence in its favor. Somehow, I don't think fully remote companies will find it easy, unless they have some secret formula for finding remote talent. Companies like GitLab (fully remote) continue to be outliers.

paulcole 5y ago
> If remote really works and the market is fair 2 MASSIVE “ifs” there. Remote wasn’t a choice for the vast majority of people over the past 2 years — it was thrust upon them. And despite what the pro-remote people will say, a huge number of them didn’t thrive because of it. They may have been more productive but they were also more miserable. Remote “worked” because it was the way companies stayed in business - it essentially had to work, even if it sucked for a ton of people. When remote truly becomes a choice then we’ll start to see whether it really works or not. And then there’s the old saying about markets staying irrational longer than most of us can stay solvent.
- mangodrunk 5y ago
  People and companies have thrived on remote work. People are actually able to find a much better work life balance having worked remotely. Remote worked! Businesses thrived. You might be miserable because of covid and living through a pandemic. Time is generally tough right now. I would recommend to you and others to work on your social life outside of work. The pandemic showed that a lot of people don't actually have friends and their whole life is their work. If that's what you want, then fine.
Valakas_ 5y ago
The problem is that often what is best for employee's quality of life and mental health is not aligned with the best for the company. If there is 1% better output from a worker if they're at the office, but they suffer 50% less mental health, compared to WFH, then guess what the company is going to chose.

by nano9 5y ago

paulcole 5y ago

> If remote really works and the market is fair 2 MASSIVE “ifs” there. Remote wasn’t a choice for the vast majority of people over the past 2 years — it was thrust upon them. And despite what the pro-remote people will say, a huge number of them didn’t thrive because of it. They may have been more productive but they were also more miserable. Remote “worked” because it was the way companies stayed in business - it essentially had to work, even if it sucked for a ton of people. When remote truly becomes a choice then we’ll start to see whether it really works or not. And then there’s the old saying about markets staying irrational longer than most of us can stay solvent.

mangodrunk 5y ago
People and companies have thrived on remote work. People are actually able to find a much better work life balance having worked remotely. Remote worked! Businesses thrived. You might be miserable because of covid and living through a pandemic. Time is generally tough right now. I would recommend to you and others to work on your social life outside of work. The pandemic showed that a lot of people don't actually have friends and their whole life is their work. If that's what you want, then fine.

Valakas_ 5y ago

The problem is that often what is best for employee's quality of life and mental health is not aligned with the best for the company. If there is 1% better output from a worker if they're at the office, but they suffer 50% less mental health, compared to WFH, then guess what the company is going to chose.