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What is the falsifiable hypothesis of the stolen election? There's nothing coherent about an ever evolving list of grievances. I'm convinced this is by design

What is the falsifiable hypothesis of the stolen election? There's nothing coherent about an ever evolving list of grievances. I'm convinced this is by design. If there were a sound theory, it could be disproven. But if its just a nebulous collection of disjointed complaints, the wound can stay open forever, which is the actual goal.

mythrwy 5y ago
Lack of signature matching, mail in ballots with little to no oversight, removing poll watchers from one party and video of ballot harvesting are all things that happened. It doesn't "prove" a stolen election but it does raise suspicions.
- flyingcircus3 5y ago
  "Removing poll watchers" was in response to those poll watchers intimidating the poll workers. The lack of signature matching/oversight is not evidence of wrongdoing. Its the possibility that wrongdoing might not have been caught. Once again, none of this is a falsifiable hypothesis. It's simply a list of grievances designed to erode trust. I'm not familiar with ballot harvesting.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Signature matching doesn't really change anything, though. At best, that would allow someone to vote on behalf of someone else, but there is still one ballot per voter. And pretty quickly I'd expect it to make the news when people complain that their vote got rejected because the state says they voted already. The "ballot harvesting" video was debunked thoroughly in a matter of hours after it was released.
tatrajim 5y ago
The 136-page 2nd interim report of the Office of Special Counsel of the state of Wisconsin, recently released, raises troubling issues. See especially: Chapter 6: Wisconsin Election Officials’ Widespread Use of Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes Facially Violated Wisconsin Law. Chapter 7: The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) Unlawfully Directed Clerks to Violate Rules Protecting Nursing Home Residents, Resulting in a 100% Voting Rate in Many Nursing Homes in 2020, Including Many Ineligible Voters. The author, Former Supreme Court justice Mike Gableman, concludes: "This Report has documented not just one, but a great collection of Wisconsin election law violations. As a political matter, the actions of state actors certifying electors in any Presidential election can be reconsidered as the Wisconsin Legislature sees fit using its plenary power under Article II of the federal Constitution, as recognized in McPherson and Bush v. Gore. Indeed, McPherson noted that “there is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time.” McPherson, 146 U.S. at 35 (emphasis added)..." https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552/osc-second-interim-report.pdf https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552... I hope the MSM will pay due attention to the issues that this report identified.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Citizens have names. There's no reason to try and rely on statistical analysis to suggest whether improper voting has occurred. Provide evidence, not conjecture.
  - tatrajim 5y ago
    From the table on p. 89 In Milwaukee County, 30 nursing homes vetted, 1084 registered voters, 1084 votes, 100% In Racine County, 12 nursing homes vetted, 348 registered voters, 348 votes, 100% In Dane County, 24 nursing homes vetted, 723 registered voters, 723 votes, 100% Etc. An exemplar of the problem is detailed in the case filed in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, by one Paul Archambault on behalf of his mother, "Jane Doe", who was "adjudicated as incompetent by the Waukesha County Circuit Court due to a degenerative brain disorder on June 23, 2015." But, it was discovered that, "Jane Doe had cast ballots in the August 11, 2020 Partisan Primary, and the November2020 General Election". https://empowerwisconsin.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Summons-and-Complaint-against-Wisconsin-Elections-Commission-Waukesha-County-Circuit-Court-2021CV1620.pdf https://empowerwisconsin.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Summ...

mythrwy 5y ago

Lack of signature matching, mail in ballots with little to no oversight, removing poll watchers from one party and video of ballot harvesting are all things that happened. It doesn't "prove" a stolen election but it does raise suspicions.

flyingcircus3 5y ago
"Removing poll watchers" was in response to those poll watchers intimidating the poll workers. The lack of signature matching/oversight is not evidence of wrongdoing. Its the possibility that wrongdoing might not have been caught. Once again, none of this is a falsifiable hypothesis. It's simply a list of grievances designed to erode trust. I'm not familiar with ballot harvesting.
rootusrootus 5y ago
Signature matching doesn't really change anything, though. At best, that would allow someone to vote on behalf of someone else, but there is still one ballot per voter. And pretty quickly I'd expect it to make the news when people complain that their vote got rejected because the state says they voted already. The "ballot harvesting" video was debunked thoroughly in a matter of hours after it was released.

tatrajim 5y ago

The 136-page 2nd interim report of the Office of Special Counsel of the state of Wisconsin, recently released, raises troubling issues. See especially: Chapter 6: Wisconsin Election Officials’ Widespread Use of Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes Facially Violated Wisconsin Law. Chapter 7: The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) Unlawfully Directed Clerks to Violate Rules Protecting Nursing Home Residents, Resulting in a 100% Voting Rate in Many Nursing Homes in 2020, Including Many Ineligible Voters. The author, Former Supreme Court justice Mike Gableman, concludes: "This Report has documented not just one, but a great collection of Wisconsin election law violations. As a political matter, the actions of state actors certifying electors in any Presidential election can be reconsidered as the Wisconsin Legislature sees fit using its plenary power under Article II of the federal Constitution, as recognized in McPherson and Bush v. Gore. Indeed, McPherson noted that “there is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time.” McPherson, 146 U.S. at 35 (emphasis added)..." https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552/osc-second-interim-report.pdf https://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/22/brandtjen/media/1552... I hope the MSM will pay due attention to the issues that this report identified.

rootusrootus 5y ago
Citizens have names. There's no reason to try and rely on statistical analysis to suggest whether improper voting has occurred. Provide evidence, not conjecture.
- tatrajim 5y ago
  From the table on p. 89 In Milwaukee County, 30 nursing homes vetted, 1084 registered voters, 1084 votes, 100% In Racine County, 12 nursing homes vetted, 348 registered voters, 348 votes, 100% In Dane County, 24 nursing homes vetted, 723 registered voters, 723 votes, 100% Etc. An exemplar of the problem is detailed in the case filed in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, by one Paul Archambault on behalf of his mother, "Jane Doe", who was "adjudicated as incompetent by the Waukesha County Circuit Court due to a degenerative brain disorder on June 23, 2015." But, it was discovered that, "Jane Doe had cast ballots in the August 11, 2020 Partisan Primary, and the November2020 General Election". https://empowerwisconsin.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Summons-and-Complaint-against-Wisconsin-Elections-Commission-Waukesha-County-Circuit-Court-2021CV1620.pdf https://empowerwisconsin.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Summ...