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I mean the anti Vietnam war movement blew up a bomb in the Senate mail room in the Capitol on two separate occasions (and got a pardon from Bill Clinton 30 year

I mean the anti Vietnam war movement blew up a bomb in the Senate mail room in the Capitol on two separate occasions (and got a pardon from Bill Clinton 30 years later). Is storming worse than bombing?

social_quotient 5y ago
I didn’t know about this - I’ll save people a search https://www.nytimes.com/1971/03/02/archives/bomb-in-capitol-causes-wide-damage-capitol-bombing-does-wide-damage.html https://www.nytimes.com/1971/03/02/archives/bomb-in-capitol-...
BeetleB 5y ago
- lliamander 5y ago
  None of the protestors at the capitol killed anyone. The police did kill at least one protestor though.
  - webmaven 5y ago
    Generally speaking, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you can be charged with their murder.
    - lliamander 5y ago
      Sure, but the previous poster's language appears to intentionally misleading as to who actually performed the act.
vkou 5y ago
I would like to remind you that the anti-Vietnam war movement at Kent State[1] was literally machine-gunned by the army. It was a bit of a different time. But maybe not that different. [1] https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state-shooting https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state-shooti...
- will4274 5y ago
  No doubt. And perhaps Vietnam was a more just cause. I do get a bit sick of all this talk of "unprecedented". Of course, if you define an event precisely enough, everything is unprecedented, but a violent riot at the seat of government of a democratic country is hardly that unusual at the end of the day - we see a couple such riots every decade. I think these folks rioted for a bad reason - I don't believe the election was stolen - but the lack of nuance and historical perspective in the media is certainly frustrating.
- dane-pgp 5y ago
  To provide more context, Nixon's government openly sent thousands of men to their deaths in Vietnam against their will, because of the draft. That of course doesn't justify violence against politicians, but it does suggest a very different motivation compared to "We think there might have been 40,000 fake ballots flown into Arizona from China".

social_quotient 5y ago

I didn’t know about this - I’ll save people a search https://www.nytimes.com/1971/03/02/archives/bomb-in-capitol-causes-wide-damage-capitol-bombing-does-wide-damage.html https://www.nytimes.com/1971/03/02/archives/bomb-in-capitol-...

BeetleB 5y ago

lliamander 5y ago
None of the protestors at the capitol killed anyone. The police did kill at least one protestor though.
- webmaven 5y ago
  Generally speaking, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you can be charged with their murder.
  - lliamander 5y ago
    Sure, but the previous poster's language appears to intentionally misleading as to who actually performed the act.

vkou 5y ago

I would like to remind you that the anti-Vietnam war movement at Kent State[1] was literally machine-gunned by the army. It was a bit of a different time. But maybe not that different. [1] https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state-shooting https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state-shooti...

will4274 5y ago
No doubt. And perhaps Vietnam was a more just cause. I do get a bit sick of all this talk of "unprecedented". Of course, if you define an event precisely enough, everything is unprecedented, but a violent riot at the seat of government of a democratic country is hardly that unusual at the end of the day - we see a couple such riots every decade. I think these folks rioted for a bad reason - I don't believe the election was stolen - but the lack of nuance and historical perspective in the media is certainly frustrating.
dane-pgp 5y ago
To provide more context, Nixon's government openly sent thousands of men to their deaths in Vietnam against their will, because of the draft. That of course doesn't justify violence against politicians, but it does suggest a very different motivation compared to "We think there might have been 40,000 fake ballots flown into Arizona from China".