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>Don't be fooled by the memery regarding Tesla. There are 60k+ FSD beta cars on the roads now, all of them with eager drivers wanting to post interesting failur

>Don't be fooled by the memery regarding Tesla. There are 60k+ FSD beta cars on the roads now, all of them with eager drivers wanting to post interesting failures to youtube. If these things were genuinely having trouble, we'd know. You are completely out of touch with reality if you think the people driving "FSD" beta are eagerly trying to show fault. It's precisely the opposite. You think those who get beta are randomly chosen? >It's at an effective level 3 already at least in my areas. That's a loooonnng way from an unattended drive across the country. You own a car and, I bet, a financial stake in Tesla. Am I right?

ajross 5y ago
> You think those who get beta are randomly chosen? Certainly not. We qualify with a safety score and wait for a new batch of cars to be added. I genuinely don't understand the level of vitriol about this product. There are a lot of these cars out there. Given the demographics of this site, surely one of your friends has one already. Call them up and get a ride. See it for yourself. I mean, everything looks terrible if you only watch greatest hits on youtube. There are literally whole subreddits dedicated to bad human driving, even. Yet... things work out. This is working far more than it's not, is all I'm saying. And the echo chamber effect has IMHO gotten a little out of control. This isn't a hard technology to find for yourself. Go try it.
- itsoktocry 5y ago
  >This isn't a hard technology to find for yourself. Go try it I don't rely on anecdata when it comes to public safety and law. Where is the data from Tesla?
- clouddrover 5y ago
  > I genuinely don't understand the level of vitriol about this product. The product doesn't exist. It has not been delivered. Tesla has consistently lied about full-self driving. Here are some lies about full-self driving hardware: https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now... Here are some further lies about full-self driving delivery: https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-promises-full-self-driving-next-year-for-th-1848432496 https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-promises-full-self-driving-ne...

ajross 5y ago

> You think those who get beta are randomly chosen? Certainly not. We qualify with a safety score and wait for a new batch of cars to be added. I genuinely don't understand the level of vitriol about this product. There are a lot of these cars out there. Given the demographics of this site, surely one of your friends has one already. Call them up and get a ride. See it for yourself. I mean, everything looks terrible if you only watch greatest hits on youtube. There are literally whole subreddits dedicated to bad human driving, even. Yet... things work out. This is working far more than it's not, is all I'm saying. And the echo chamber effect has IMHO gotten a little out of control. This isn't a hard technology to find for yourself. Go try it.

itsoktocry 5y ago
>This isn't a hard technology to find for yourself. Go try it I don't rely on anecdata when it comes to public safety and law. Where is the data from Tesla?
clouddrover 5y ago
> I genuinely don't understand the level of vitriol about this product. The product doesn't exist. It has not been delivered. Tesla has consistently lied about full-self driving. Here are some lies about full-self driving hardware: https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now... Here are some further lies about full-self driving delivery: https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-promises-full-self-driving-next-year-for-th-1848432496 https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-promises-full-self-driving-ne...