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>" ... but cutting off the internet means the only information many Russians will have is domestic propaganda." I think the Roskomnadzor watchdog has pretty mu

>" ... but cutting off the internet means the only information many Russians will have is domestic propaganda." I think the Roskomnadzor watchdog has pretty much preemptively done that already though no? And it's not just social media but things like the BBC and Deutsche Welle etc. See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russia-completely-blocks-access-to-facebook-and-twitter https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russia-complet... and https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rferl-bbc-facebook-google-twitter-blocked/31735597.html https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rferl-bbc-facebook-google-twi...

miohtama 5y ago
(Posted this earlier on another story.) If someone is going to disconnect Russia from Internet it is going to be Russian themselves, to limit the free flow of information that might be conflicting with the official truth. But like with the Chinese firewall, information find its way. Unless Russia wants to set itself back to 70s, they still need to access Github, Cloudflare, Amazon Cloudfront, etc. For the Russian IT business to work. It is going to be very inefficient to run anything with a pen and a paper. Software development and Internet were built on scientific principles, criticism, criticial thinking. This requires free flow of information. You cannot have one without the other, or you are going to end up with very inferior and inefficient software ecosystem.
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  > they still need to access Github, Cloudflare, Amazon Cloudfront, etc LOL. Do you really think the brass even know what it is? Putin doesn't even know how the modern mobile phones look, he didn't needed one for more than 20 years. To give you a slight idea how long it is - the famous Nokia 3310 was announced 9 months later than his (acting) presidency.
  - gspetr 5y ago
    They do: https://scooptrade.com/mintsifry-called-for-stimulating-the-transition-to-domestic-software/ https://scooptrade.com/mintsifry-called-for-stimulating-the-...
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Well, at least that carries the immense benefit of him not incessantly tweeting on his smartphone even from the loo.

miohtama 5y ago

(Posted this earlier on another story.) If someone is going to disconnect Russia from Internet it is going to be Russian themselves, to limit the free flow of information that might be conflicting with the official truth. But like with the Chinese firewall, information find its way. Unless Russia wants to set itself back to 70s, they still need to access Github, Cloudflare, Amazon Cloudfront, etc. For the Russian IT business to work. It is going to be very inefficient to run anything with a pen and a paper. Software development and Internet were built on scientific principles, criticism, criticial thinking. This requires free flow of information. You cannot have one without the other, or you are going to end up with very inferior and inefficient software ecosystem.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
> they still need to access Github, Cloudflare, Amazon Cloudfront, etc LOL. Do you really think the brass even know what it is? Putin doesn't even know how the modern mobile phones look, he didn't needed one for more than 20 years. To give you a slight idea how long it is - the famous Nokia 3310 was announced 9 months later than his (acting) presidency.
- gspetr 5y ago
  They do: https://scooptrade.com/mintsifry-called-for-stimulating-the-transition-to-domestic-software/ https://scooptrade.com/mintsifry-called-for-stimulating-the-...
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Well, at least that carries the immense benefit of him not incessantly tweeting on his smartphone even from the loo.