> Are Waymo and Cruise not commercial products? Not really, and they aren't level 5. Essentially the bet is that getting to 5 is harder than people think, and

> Are Waymo and Cruise not commercial products? Not really, and they aren't level 5. Essentially the bet is that getting to 5 is harder than people think, and getting to commercially available SAE5 is going to take (at least) longer than 7 years. Bear in mind all commercial systems now are level 2 and testing features for 3. Waymo/Cruise are testing 4.