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Yup. We have this MCU good guys vs bad guys thing ingrained in us now. Nobody wants to talk seriously about the intricate complexities. My way or the highway.

Yup. We have this MCU good guys vs bad guys thing ingrained in us now. Nobody wants to talk seriously about the intricate complexities. My way or the highway. Russia bad. Ukraine good. America leader of the free world. Go to sleep. Eat. Buy. Work. Rinse. Repeat.

torstenvl 5y ago
There is nothing complex about it. They're bombing hospitals and schools and they're doing it intentionally.
- georgia_peach 5y ago
  Just like we do! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airs...
  - warner_of_doom 5y ago
    NO! I hate looking in the mirror!
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - torstenvl 5y ago
    It's deeply dishonest to claim that a handful of deeply tragic mistakes are in any way morally equivalent to the systematic and relentless targeting of civilians that the Russians are engaged in. The U.S. military has committed war crimes. They have all been prosecuted by the U.S. government. From Abu Ghraib to Clint Lorance to the Marine Snipers to Eddie Gallagher. There is no moral equivalence. https://twitter.com/truthsunchained/status/1498765829382545418?s=21 https://twitter.com/truthsunchained/status/14987658293825454...
    - georgia_peach 5y ago
      Sorry dawg, but I accidentally bombed your hospital and your wedding party! We cool though, right? Napalming the Vietnamese... rice farmers on the other side of the world who couldn't hurt us if they tried... and spending so much money to do it that we had to end Bretton Woods... a "deeply tragic mistake." Destroying Iraq, over imaginary WMDs and Bin Laden (playing xbox in Pakistan at the time)... shelling the cities with so much depleted uranium that the babies are coming out deformed... oopsie! And I'm the one being "deeply dishonest"? Ha! Now that we've gotten the obligatory moral scolding out of the way, who really cares what John Mearsheimer or George Kennan have to say when we have twitter? I go to the website... "Thanks to the Global Shapers Community...," another offshoot of the World Economic Forum. The Spice must flow, I guess. "Built by Stanford Ukranians...," foreign silver-spoons agitating for Americans to die for mommy and daddy's regime. It's an understandable move--Iranian and Iraqi expats made the same one years ago--but no thank you.
      - torstenvl 5y ago
        And again... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley#Murder_trial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley#Murder_trial Feel free to criticize Nixon for getting involved but the U.S. prosecutes soldiers who commit war crimes. Even in Vietnam. And when people try to cover it up, U.S. service members have the moral courage to push back. Russia intentionally encourages, even orders, soldiers to commit war crimes. There are no prosecutions for it. There is no comparison.
        georgia_peach 5y ago
        This is just phariseeism. "See, we punished the guy who did the illegal killings!" -- while whistling right past all of the legal ones.
  - selfhoster11 5y ago
    "We"? I don't remember becoming American anytime recently.
    - georgia_peach 5y ago
      georgia_peach, American, replying to torstenvl, "U.S. Marine Officer." We.

torstenvl 5y ago

There is nothing complex about it. They're bombing hospitals and schools and they're doing it intentionally.

georgia_peach 5y ago
Just like we do! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airs...
- warner_of_doom 5y ago
  NO! I hate looking in the mirror!
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- torstenvl 5y ago
  It's deeply dishonest to claim that a handful of deeply tragic mistakes are in any way morally equivalent to the systematic and relentless targeting of civilians that the Russians are engaged in. The U.S. military has committed war crimes. They have all been prosecuted by the U.S. government. From Abu Ghraib to Clint Lorance to the Marine Snipers to Eddie Gallagher. There is no moral equivalence. https://twitter.com/truthsunchained/status/1498765829382545418?s=21 https://twitter.com/truthsunchained/status/14987658293825454...
  - georgia_peach 5y ago
    Sorry dawg, but I accidentally bombed your hospital and your wedding party! We cool though, right? Napalming the Vietnamese... rice farmers on the other side of the world who couldn't hurt us if they tried... and spending so much money to do it that we had to end Bretton Woods... a "deeply tragic mistake." Destroying Iraq, over imaginary WMDs and Bin Laden (playing xbox in Pakistan at the time)... shelling the cities with so much depleted uranium that the babies are coming out deformed... oopsie! And I'm the one being "deeply dishonest"? Ha! Now that we've gotten the obligatory moral scolding out of the way, who really cares what John Mearsheimer or George Kennan have to say when we have twitter? I go to the website... "Thanks to the Global Shapers Community...," another offshoot of the World Economic Forum. The Spice must flow, I guess. "Built by Stanford Ukranians...," foreign silver-spoons agitating for Americans to die for mommy and daddy's regime. It's an understandable move--Iranian and Iraqi expats made the same one years ago--but no thank you.
    - torstenvl 5y ago
      And again... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley#Murder_trial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley#Murder_trial Feel free to criticize Nixon for getting involved but the U.S. prosecutes soldiers who commit war crimes. Even in Vietnam. And when people try to cover it up, U.S. service members have the moral courage to push back. Russia intentionally encourages, even orders, soldiers to commit war crimes. There are no prosecutions for it. There is no comparison.
      - georgia_peach 5y ago
        This is just phariseeism. "See, we punished the guy who did the illegal killings!" -- while whistling right past all of the legal ones.
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  "We"? I don't remember becoming American anytime recently.
  - georgia_peach 5y ago
    georgia_peach, American, replying to torstenvl, "U.S. Marine Officer." We.