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I'm so glad that Covid cares about the economy. I also hate the obsession with in office work. I know for many people there's a social aspect to being in the o
by olliej 5y ago
I'm so glad that Covid cares about the economy.
I also hate the obsession with in office work. I know for many people there's a social aspect to being in the office, but honestly I don't consider 4 hours of commuting each day to be worth the socializing aspect of in office work.
- paulcole 5y agoI hate the obsession with remote work. I commuted 10 minutes by bike and loved it. Remote work is hell for me. I’ll never pursue work at a remote company ever. I would happily take a pay cut to work in an office again.
- Apocryphon 5y agoYou know you can still simulate that commute, right? People who miss the boundaries of the office environment away from home, the social aspects, the prospect for promotions, sure. That all makes sense. But the commute? There’s nothing stopping you from biking those ten minutes before your remote job. During the quarantine you had more time than before to bike, and probably less traffic to boot. And as an aside- did you have your own office or cubicle, or was it open layout?
- paulcole 5y agoI worked in a large open office. I also live in a tiny apartment that’s designed to be lived/slept in, not 24 hours a day in. Thanks for the tip though.
- jen20 5y ago> I worked in a large open office. This is my personal definition of hellscape.
- paulcole 5y agoNeat! I hope you can understand that remote work is my personal definition of hellscape. Neither of is right or wrong — they are our preferences.
- Apocryphon 5y agoIf you liked commuting so much as an escape from the tiny apartment, then maybe you should seriously try simulating it, and bike more often? And as always, remote during pandemic is different from remote in normal times. In normal times you could work remotely from a co-working space, from a cafe, from a library, from any public space with decent internet and private rooms to take calls in. Why commit to going back into the open office? You're welcome!
- paulcole 5y agoGood tips again, but I get quite a bit of exercise — 40-50 mile a week runner. > Why commit to going back into the open office? Because I like working in an open office with other people. The same as the pro-remote work crowd does not enjoy in an office. Neither is right or wrong — they are preferences. My plan is to find a company with employees who share my preferences.
- Apocryphon 5y agoIt’s rare to find people who truly prefer the open office layout over having a personal office, or a cubicle, or a shared cube with one’s team. That’s a unique opinion that you’re free to have. For many, the depredations of the open office is a driving reason towards remote, but you uniquely do not have that hang-up. Enjoy!
- stevegore 5y agoI’m not sure it’s that rare. It’s just that the remote working evangelists are just so damn vocal about it.
- Apocryphon 5y agoIt’s not about remote vs. in office. It’s about open office vs. other types of office plans. The anti-open office threads on HN were something else. Perhaps with RTO, they will have a comeback.
- stevegore 5y agoI’m with you! Can’t wait to get some face to face time and actively turning down fully remote work.