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Facebook Banned in Russia
- ushakov 5y agops. The announcement came through about an hour ago, so i'm posting a link to Interfax Facebook got banned because they blocked Russian state media pages they don't like that literally anybody on Facebook is allowed to post propaganda but them
- high_pathetic 5y agopropaganda != propaganda They block propaganda of the government agencies of a country that is currently in the middle of hostile, widely condemned by the West, military operations in another sovereign European country.
- trmonx 5y agoIt's also likely they blocked it because then non-state approved opinions about war can circulate more easily. They already shut down those few more free media that were left so it makes sense that they would crack down on alternative platforms too.
- actuator 5y agoDid they censor the pages in Russia too? Afair, it was them censoring them in EU
- eps 5y agoIt got banned because FB refused to stop fact-checking state media posts.
- sgregnt 5y agoSome time you need to take sides. Perhaps if that happened in 33, 34, 35... we would not have 39.
- high_pathetic 5y agoWhat about Whatsapp and other Meta products?
- selectout 5y agoWhatsApp and Instagram are still enabled
- programmarchy 5y agoSo now the deplatformers become the deplatformed.
- ushakov 5y agoi'm kinda shocked how ridiculous the whole situation is Facebook: publishes propaganda Russian state media: publishes propaganda Facebook: blocks Russian state media so they can't publish propaganda Russian government: blocks Facebook because Russian state media can't publish propaganda and Facebook publishes propaganda
- sjg007 5y agoRussia publishes disinformation. Different than propaganda.
- actuator 5y agoHow is Facebook publishing propoganda. It is a content distribution platform, not a creation one.
- axiosgunnar 5y ago1. Facebook‘s „fact“ checkers defaming unconvenient truths as „fake news“ 2. Facebook banning individual accounts for violation of selectively interpreted „community guidelines“ 3. Facebook manually tweaking the recommendation algorithm to promote some topics and not others … Still on a completely different level than Russian state-based propaganda, of course, but Facebook is not „just a neutral platform“
- throwmeariver1 5y ago
- booi 5y agoyeah i'm gonna need a source on #1
- gattilorenz 5y agoAlso Twitter followed the same fate. I wonder whether "normal" people, those using FB but who have no idea of how to access the BBC via Tor, and that might support Putin, will see through such a huge ban.
- matvonder 5y ago
- Mo3 5y agoBlyat Ivan, the bots aren’t working, shut the whole access down
- _Algernon_ 5y agoLooking forward to the rest of Europe following suit
- acqbu 5y agohaha was about to say the same thing
- olliej 5y agowow, all those years of bending over backwards to appease them and they still banned them? I am shocked I tell you.
- sgregnt 5y agoFacebook never bent to apease anyone you are confusing facebook with Google
- meatsauce 5y agoWish it would get banned in the United States, too
- tcmart14 5y agoI know right. No longer having access to facebook seems like a societal good rather than something bad.
- sgregnt 5y agoI wish people who wish facebook to be banned (or any other communication / news app) would be publically shamed in the USA.
- jtsiskin 5y agoThis is a pretty strange take given the context. It’s the same 0 value “Facebook = bad” top comment which HN is often criticized for. “Facebook gets banned because it allows the truth of the Ukrainian conflict to spread” highlights that despite many serious flaws, there may be some good in a platform which allows information to spread peer to peer.
- lowkey 5y agoMaybe it has something to do with Facebook temporarily unbanning the Azov Brigade as long as they fight the Russians? FYI the Azov Brigade is a Neo-Nazi military unit fighting as an official part of the Ukrainian National guard. https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/ https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...
- lowkey 5y agoI realize mine is an unpopular view. To be clear, I do not support Putin nor the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. I just find it uncomfortable that so many are suddenly willing to look the other way while Ukraine employs militant Nazi battalions in their own national guard. I also find it unsettling that all of a sudden Facebook unbanned the Azov Brigade, a known terrorist organization, but only as long as they are fighting against Russia [0]. Principles are principles and I can't support this kind of hypocracy. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/ https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
- djohnston 5y agoIt's interesting that militant Nazi battalions are "the good guys" compared to the Russian invaders. Last time this matchup went down the Russians were the righteous. It's about survival for Ukraine, nothing else matters.
- tpoacher 5y agoDoes anyone even use Facebook in russia?
- sgregnt 5y agoMany people all the time. All my relatives and many of my friends.
- tpoacher 5y agoFair enough, but being on HN, I sincerely doubt you are a typical russian internet user. Most Russian people I met only used vkontakte, and only used facebook because they either had a company to promote internationally, or studied abroad, somehow didn't end up in a typical russians-abroad clique, and wanted facebook "on the side" to keep in touch with their international friends (who are obviously not gonna be on vkontakte).
- jurschreuder 5y agoThey want to put the whole of Russia in a Truman show. It's really the most ambitious gaslighting project ever undertaken.