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Bro, we put sanctions on you for a reason, not to help you after they hurt you.

by qnsi 5y ago

ww_wpg 5y ago
It definitely hurts Russia if their most talented workers relocate out of the country
- qnsi 5y ago
  sure, but hes asking for remote work as well, for those staying in Moscow. I think its very funny, him speaking about 2hours a day, like his in grave danger. He didnt mention anything about being presecuted. I happen to know people stuck in Ukraine fearing for their life so please excuse me that I find it hard to emphatize with him. I would feel bad if he dint overstate how bad his situation is.
  - throwaway_4ever 5y ago
    This person is fleeing their home of decades, their family and friends, for the unknown with barely anything to start from the ground somewhere. Did you expect them to single-handedly take Putin down themselves? If they didn't vote for Putin, they have my utmost sympathy and I wish I could help. Anti-Putin Russians are also lesser victims in this war on Ukraine. Remember, protesting Putin and the war can now lead to 15 years in a Russian gulag.
  - smugglerFlynn 5y ago
    Maybe I was not 100% clear on that. People who look for remote work need it to stay somewhere _outside_ of Russia and work remotely from there. Relocation is no easy feat, at least to do it quickly. Especially with half of the flights out of Russia being shut down.
iExploder 5y ago
"bro" we put sanctions on the gov not to hurt your everyday Ivan. Its not like they live in a democracy and russians can just do anything about their dictator gov.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
  The sanctions most definitely were, are, should and will be targeting much more than the government.
  - dhsysusbsjsi 5y ago
    Unfortunately this is true - apathy or indifference with the leader forms partial complicity with the actions in Ukraine. Even if only 1%. The economic success of an individual contributes to the evil leader's actions by providing money and resources to the military as taxes (etc). It's sad but until a million people march on Putin and hang him from the yard arm to restore their beautiful nation and start restoration payments to Ukraine, the sanctions need to be very heavy and target the entire country as a whole. Sad situation.
    - iExploder 5y ago
      not sure this is realistic million people get together? you need some kind of leadership. this mean u have someone u can aim your snipers at / throw KGB at to disappear into a gulag and never be seen again... russia is not exactly usa where you are free to buy assault rifles in grocery store, or where you can buy even a small gun for that matter... its not like bunch of guys decide to storm Kremlin over the weekend and magically overthrow the gov I mean it happened in russia in the past, but it was literally at a cost of several millions dead, not sure if this is the right solution
      - gota 5y ago
        It is entirely realistic and has happened several times in modern history, at least a few in the last decade Two examples of not "single leader" protests happened in 2013, in Brazil and Turkey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests P.S.: I don't have an opinion regarding whether Russian people are "responsible" for staying in Russia and "fixing" their government, but I upvoted everyone answering to this part of the thread/topic in a civil manner. Not many other places I could witness a discussion like this that does not degrade into insults
redmen 5y ago
asmr 5y ago
This is to hurt the Russian government and economy so that the leaders can reconsider their decisions. They live in an authoritarian regime, the citizens are negatively impacted as a side-effect of the decision of their leaders. Have some empathy, I'm sure a majority of Russia citizens are not ok with the war.
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- bryan_w 5y ago
  No, this is to affect the people. People without jobs or money have time and motivation to march to the capital to enact the needed policy changes to get the sanctions removed.
  - asmr 5y ago
    Tell me you have lived in a democratic society your entire life without telling me.

Bro, we put sanctions on you for a reason, not to help you after they hurt you.

by qnsi 5y ago

Bro, we put sanctions on you for a reason, not to help you after they hurt you.

ww_wpg 5y ago

It definitely hurts Russia if their most talented workers relocate out of the country

qnsi 5y ago
sure, but hes asking for remote work as well, for those staying in Moscow. I think its very funny, him speaking about 2hours a day, like his in grave danger. He didnt mention anything about being presecuted. I happen to know people stuck in Ukraine fearing for their life so please excuse me that I find it hard to emphatize with him. I would feel bad if he dint overstate how bad his situation is.
- throwaway_4ever 5y ago
  This person is fleeing their home of decades, their family and friends, for the unknown with barely anything to start from the ground somewhere. Did you expect them to single-handedly take Putin down themselves? If they didn't vote for Putin, they have my utmost sympathy and I wish I could help. Anti-Putin Russians are also lesser victims in this war on Ukraine. Remember, protesting Putin and the war can now lead to 15 years in a Russian gulag.
- smugglerFlynn 5y ago
  Maybe I was not 100% clear on that. People who look for remote work need it to stay somewhere _outside_ of Russia and work remotely from there. Relocation is no easy feat, at least to do it quickly. Especially with half of the flights out of Russia being shut down.

iExploder 5y ago

"bro" we put sanctions on the gov not to hurt your everyday Ivan. Its not like they live in a democracy and russians can just do anything about their dictator gov.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
The sanctions most definitely were, are, should and will be targeting much more than the government.
- dhsysusbsjsi 5y ago
  Unfortunately this is true - apathy or indifference with the leader forms partial complicity with the actions in Ukraine. Even if only 1%. The economic success of an individual contributes to the evil leader's actions by providing money and resources to the military as taxes (etc). It's sad but until a million people march on Putin and hang him from the yard arm to restore their beautiful nation and start restoration payments to Ukraine, the sanctions need to be very heavy and target the entire country as a whole. Sad situation.
  - iExploder 5y ago
    not sure this is realistic million people get together? you need some kind of leadership. this mean u have someone u can aim your snipers at / throw KGB at to disappear into a gulag and never be seen again... russia is not exactly usa where you are free to buy assault rifles in grocery store, or where you can buy even a small gun for that matter... its not like bunch of guys decide to storm Kremlin over the weekend and magically overthrow the gov I mean it happened in russia in the past, but it was literally at a cost of several millions dead, not sure if this is the right solution
    - gota 5y ago
      It is entirely realistic and has happened several times in modern history, at least a few in the last decade Two examples of not "single leader" protests happened in 2013, in Brazil and Turkey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests P.S.: I don't have an opinion regarding whether Russian people are "responsible" for staying in Russia and "fixing" their government, but I upvoted everyone answering to this part of the thread/topic in a civil manner. Not many other places I could witness a discussion like this that does not degrade into insults

redmen 5y ago

asmr 5y ago

This is to hurt the Russian government and economy so that the leaders can reconsider their decisions. They live in an authoritarian regime, the citizens are negatively impacted as a side-effect of the decision of their leaders. Have some empathy, I'm sure a majority of Russia citizens are not ok with the war.

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bryan_w 5y ago
No, this is to affect the people. People without jobs or money have time and motivation to march to the capital to enact the needed policy changes to get the sanctions removed.
- asmr 5y ago
  Tell me you have lived in a democratic society your entire life without telling me.