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This is pretty funny to me. I just built https://gloutir.com https://gloutir.com, essentially a micro agency that's just ... myself. I realized working for lar

This is pretty funny to me. I just built https://gloutir.com https://gloutir.com, essentially a micro agency that's just ... myself. I realized working for large agencies that I'm already the person doing all the work, so why not get compensated accordingly? It was also amazing to me the amount of outsourcing that happens at an agency, most of them really don't have inhouse designers or developers (regardless of their massive size).

fartcannon 5y ago
This is how a great number of infrastructure P3 projects are run. One professional engineer employed by a massive consulting firm signing off on the work of 50 low paid overseas designers. That one engineer will have 4 or 5 bosses and be responsible for as many huge infrastructure projects. The leaders of these companies are well connected charismatic used car salesmen.
bendbro 5y ago
That website is beautiful
- manmal 5y ago
  The copy is mostly talking about themselves though, and little about how they are helping the customer achieve X.
  - oldstrangers 5y ago
    Not a copy writer, but wanted to highlight the shortcomings of traditional agencies. Also felt compelled to oversell what we do / who we are since I can't showcase most of my portfolio that's tied to existing agencies. Something to consider though.
lancesells 5y ago
Beautiful site but I think you're kind of only talking about yourself. I would address the problem points companies have and talk about them. In a sense your are speaking in abstracts.
- oldstrangers 5y ago
  Fair points. I think the main pain points companies have, that I touch on, are turnaround times, cost and creative ability. I could lay out those ideas in an easier to consume format instead of just large paragraphs though.
soared 5y ago
Stunning website! All you need is a few client logos/previous projects and I’d be convinced.
wooque 5y ago
I like the aesthetics
chrismorgan 5y ago
Multiple people are liking your site, but I shall express a dissenting opinion (with details of specifically what I disliked): yes, it has character, but it was significantly overpowering and I didn’t like the presentation at all. (Its content I genuinely can’t comment on: I’ve been too severely distracted and disconcerted by the presentation.) A big unreadable title (the style of lettering makes it difficult to discern which strokes belong to which letter, and having it 500px tall against a distracting background makes it even harder to read, it’s just so big) with a fixed-attachment background (I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever found a case where I think that was actually warranted); then continual blocks of text in NewEddy, an uppercase-only display serif font that’s simply hard/uncomfortable to read. Body text in a monospace face, which is not good for reading in English (any time I come across blog posts that I actually want to read but where the site is using monospace body text, I nuke that style and breathe a sigh of relief). Then the marquee with parallax at the bottom somehow managed to be enter a class of disconcertion of its own, and that was before I discovered it was supposed to be a video (I have autoplay turned very firmly off, thank you very much), which improves some aspects and makes others worse. And finally I’ll mention the excessively low-contrast header that also collides with what’s underneath it at any given moment, and the footer footnote’s similarly badly low contrast.
- oldstrangers 5y ago
  Well Chris, you're not my target audience, and that's ok. The site is intentionally very over the top, and not everyone will like it. That's sort of the entire point, you take risks and you're always going to have people that dislike it. There's lots of money in the margins, and that's where we want to exist. Anywho, I'm honestly surprised not more people hated it.

fartcannon 5y ago

This is how a great number of infrastructure P3 projects are run. One professional engineer employed by a massive consulting firm signing off on the work of 50 low paid overseas designers. That one engineer will have 4 or 5 bosses and be responsible for as many huge infrastructure projects. The leaders of these companies are well connected charismatic used car salesmen.

bendbro 5y ago

That website is beautiful

manmal 5y ago
The copy is mostly talking about themselves though, and little about how they are helping the customer achieve X.
- oldstrangers 5y ago
  Not a copy writer, but wanted to highlight the shortcomings of traditional agencies. Also felt compelled to oversell what we do / who we are since I can't showcase most of my portfolio that's tied to existing agencies. Something to consider though.

lancesells 5y ago

Beautiful site but I think you're kind of only talking about yourself. I would address the problem points companies have and talk about them. In a sense your are speaking in abstracts.

oldstrangers 5y ago
Fair points. I think the main pain points companies have, that I touch on, are turnaround times, cost and creative ability. I could lay out those ideas in an easier to consume format instead of just large paragraphs though.

soared 5y ago

Stunning website! All you need is a few client logos/previous projects and I’d be convinced.

wooque 5y ago

I like the aesthetics

chrismorgan 5y ago

Multiple people are liking your site, but I shall express a dissenting opinion (with details of specifically what I disliked): yes, it has character, but it was significantly overpowering and I didn’t like the presentation at all. (Its content I genuinely can’t comment on: I’ve been too severely distracted and disconcerted by the presentation.) A big unreadable title (the style of lettering makes it difficult to discern which strokes belong to which letter, and having it 500px tall against a distracting background makes it even harder to read, it’s just so big) with a fixed-attachment background (I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever found a case where I think that was actually warranted); then continual blocks of text in NewEddy, an uppercase-only display serif font that’s simply hard/uncomfortable to read. Body text in a monospace face, which is not good for reading in English (any time I come across blog posts that I actually want to read but where the site is using monospace body text, I nuke that style and breathe a sigh of relief). Then the marquee with parallax at the bottom somehow managed to be enter a class of disconcertion of its own, and that was before I discovered it was supposed to be a video (I have autoplay turned very firmly off, thank you very much), which improves some aspects and makes others worse. And finally I’ll mention the excessively low-contrast header that also collides with what’s underneath it at any given moment, and the footer footnote’s similarly badly low contrast.

oldstrangers 5y ago
Well Chris, you're not my target audience, and that's ok. The site is intentionally very over the top, and not everyone will like it. That's sort of the entire point, you take risks and you're always going to have people that dislike it. There's lots of money in the margins, and that's where we want to exist. Anywho, I'm honestly surprised not more people hated it.