> You may not like the company, but it is definitely an innovative company. They may not innovate on the things you are drawn to, but they definitely innovate.

> You may not like the company, but it is definitely an innovative company. They may not innovate on the things you are drawn to, but they definitely innovate. A lot too. They certainly innovated world leading business strategies like "embrace, extend and extinguish". As far as technical ideas and innovation are regarded, I have not seen a single instance of something they built which was not a copy or an extension of something which had been seen before.