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> I’ve previously encountered the idea of equating the state prior to my birth (nothing), with that of my death (also nothing). Given that there is evidence of

> I’ve previously encountered the idea of equating the state prior to my birth (nothing), with that of my death (also nothing). Given that there is evidence of fetal/prenatal memory, it implies there is pre-birth state, and thus not nothing: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_memory Some argue (small) post-birth states are the same as pre-birth states; Jerry Coyne: > If you are allowed to abort a fetus that has a severe genetic defect, microcephaly, spina bifida, or so on, then why aren’t you able to euthanize that same fetus just after it’s born? I see no substantive difference that would make the former act moral and the latter immoral. * https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2017/07/13/should-one-be-allowed-to-euthanize-severely-deformed-or-doomed-newborns/ https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2017/07/13/should-one-be-allo... * Via: https://evolutionnews.org/2017/08/why-does-this-evolutionary-biologist-want-to-euthanize-handicapped-babies/ https://evolutionnews.org/2017/08/why-does-this-evolutionary...

giantg2 5y ago
"Some argue (small) post-birth states are the same as pre-birth states" At first I thought you were going to talk about post-death states. Like how EEG activity can persist for a limited time after clinical death.
throw0101a 5y ago
Related self-reply: > Newborns can recognize the voices they’ve been hearing for the last trimester in the womb, especially the sounds that come from their mothers, and prefer those voices to the voices of strangers. They also prefer other languages with similar rhythms, rather than languages with very different rhythms. (Newborns indicated their preferences by how long they sucked on specially rigged pacifiers that enabled them to hear one speaker versus another, or one language versus another.) * https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/well/family/language-lessons-start-in-the-womb.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/well/family/language-less... * https://archive.ph/xLDrz https://archive.ph/xLDrz

giantg2 5y ago

"Some argue (small) post-birth states are the same as pre-birth states" At first I thought you were going to talk about post-death states. Like how EEG activity can persist for a limited time after clinical death.

throw0101a 5y ago

Related self-reply: > Newborns can recognize the voices they’ve been hearing for the last trimester in the womb, especially the sounds that come from their mothers, and prefer those voices to the voices of strangers. They also prefer other languages with similar rhythms, rather than languages with very different rhythms. (Newborns indicated their preferences by how long they sucked on specially rigged pacifiers that enabled them to hear one speaker versus another, or one language versus another.) * https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/well/family/language-lessons-start-in-the-womb.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/21/well/family/language-less... * https://archive.ph/xLDrz https://archive.ph/xLDrz