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>The materials that new Tesla owners receive are specifying that the driver needs to pay attention in all circumstances. Can you please provide an example of m

>The materials that new Tesla owners receive are specifying that the driver needs to pay attention in all circumstances. Can you please provide an example of material that owners actually receive that states as much? It's safe to assume that we can't expect everyone to read a support page on a website, just like how it's safe to assume that most people don't read the owner's manual when they buy a new ICE vehicle. >How did they do that? It's in how they promote it publicly. It's in how Musk constantly says it's "a year away". It's in the fucking name - "autopilot" has certain connotations within society writ large that Tesla can't just handwave away with legalese.

mariusor 5y ago
You are right, I can't give you an example as I don't own a Tesla. Yet I find it hard to believe that when someone is purchasing 45K+ of hardware and 10K+ of beta software they can't be arsed to read the support page for any of it. I hope that people that pay these sums are responsible adults that don't go out there putting everyone in danger because "autopilot" is right there in the name, and of course it's a totally different thing than when the word is used for airplanes.
llampx 5y ago
The irony is that to anyone who takes 2 minutes to read a wikipedia article, Autopilot is like cruise control or cruise control + lane assist. It is not "full self-flying" at all. However, too many people believe that a Tesla is years ahead of the rest of the pack when it comes to "full self-driving." That's marketing for ya.
mariusor 5y ago
I found the example in the end, but I bet you'll think it's also part of those documents that you can't expect anyone to read. The subscription agreement[1] when buying a subscription to Tesla's FSM contains the following in the "Responsibility" section (sixth paragraph): > Active Supervision; Responsibility. Full Self-Driving capability features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.[...] [1] https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#full-self-driving-capability-subscription-agreement https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#full-self-d...

mariusor 5y ago

You are right, I can't give you an example as I don't own a Tesla. Yet I find it hard to believe that when someone is purchasing 45K+ of hardware and 10K+ of beta software they can't be arsed to read the support page for any of it. I hope that people that pay these sums are responsible adults that don't go out there putting everyone in danger because "autopilot" is right there in the name, and of course it's a totally different thing than when the word is used for airplanes.

llampx 5y ago

The irony is that to anyone who takes 2 minutes to read a wikipedia article, Autopilot is like cruise control or cruise control + lane assist. It is not "full self-flying" at all. However, too many people believe that a Tesla is years ahead of the rest of the pack when it comes to "full self-driving." That's marketing for ya.

mariusor 5y ago

I found the example in the end, but I bet you'll think it's also part of those documents that you can't expect anyone to read. The subscription agreement[1] when buying a subscription to Tesla's FSM contains the following in the "Responsibility" section (sixth paragraph): > Active Supervision; Responsibility. Full Self-Driving capability features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.[...] [1] https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#full-self-driving-capability-subscription-agreement https://www.tesla.com/legal/additional-resources#full-self-d...