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The EU/NATO is already over-extended as a polity. This is not how you win in the long run. Sweden/Finland have a complicated status with NATO. It's long been u
by lambdasquirrel 5y ago
The EU/NATO is already over-extended as a polity. This is not how you win in the long run.
Sweden/Finland have a complicated status with NATO. It's long been understood that extending NATO up to Russia's borders would trigger a response, which is why those countries have always partnered with NATO but never been technically a member. Indeed, through this whole debacle, the folks with brass balls have been the Swedes and the Finns.
Ironically, that is part of Putin's public justification – that Ukraine may gain Finnish status. But the reality is that Sweden and Finland are very much socioeconomically Western, whereas Ukraine is not, which is partly what makes Ukraine much harder to defend. In order to defend them, they need to be part of the polity. The EU has already had a hard enough time with Poland and Romania.
- Hamuko 5y ago>It's long been understood that extending NATO up to Russia's borders would trigger a response There's already a bunch of NATO countries bordering Russia in Europe. Maybe not to such a large extent that Finland would be, but there definitely is.
- lambdasquirrel 5y agoWhich is partly why Russia has been belligerent. The Swedes and Finns have an arrangement dating back to the Cold War. Estonia, et. al were admitted after it seemed the order had changed. But given how things turned out after the end of the Cold War, it makes it look all the more complicated in hindsight.