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Ask HN: Replacement for Stack Overflow jobs section?

167 points by dgarud 5y ago

After stack overflow closes their jobs section, which site would you consider a replacement, both as employee and/or employer?

ianwalter 5y ago
Surprised no one has mentioned https://hired.com https://hired.com
hurflmurfl 5y ago
For people like me, who have not heard about this: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-jobs-developer-story https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j... > Jobs and Developer Story will no longer be supported as of April 1, 2022.
- erikon 5y ago
  Could it be April Fools'?
- jt2190 5y ago
  Also, previous discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135
  - password4321 5y ago
    Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30023343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30023343
- jader201 5y ago
  Wow, thanks, I had no idea. I even missed the previous HN thread on it (I follow HN150 on Twitter, so mostly only check out stories that hit 150 points). What’s crazy is that I haven’t received a single email about them deprecating Jobs. I think they have my most up-to-date resume, so I may have lost that (maybe they’ll send something out later this month, but seems like most companies give a longer heads-up when deprecating products).
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    I got an email about it from SO.
  - Icathian 5y ago
    I may be confused. April 1, 2022 is almost a month from now. You haven't lost anything yet?
  - ams92 5y ago
    I got multiple emails from them about the depreciation.
  - jesstelford 5y ago
    You've still got a few days (up to March 31st)! You can save it as PDF directly from your Developer Story, but if you want it in another format, you'll have to use a third party tool. Shameless plug: I was pretty bummed too, so I built a JSON exporter that anyone can use: https://developerstory.dev/stackoverflow https://developerstory.dev/stackoverflow
- randomsilence 5y ago
  What's their reason for shutting it down? The older submissions mention that they want to focus on managing company images. Why would they shut down before establishing the new income stream? What happens if it doesn't work out? Will they shut down completely in a year or two? Besides, if they are not operating at a loss, why not keep the job board running and improve it until it is the market leader? They know what people search. Who is better positioned to bring programmers and companies together? What do I miss that makes it impossible for them to continue?
  - randomsilence 5y ago
    Puneet Mulchandani's answer is there: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-jobs-developer-story/415408#415408 https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j... > less than 1% of our monthly users engaged with Jobs > Most employers found our sourcing system too restrictive or difficult to work with > We would need to spend a lot more time & effort to address these issues But why does it matter? It's all automated.
tough 5y ago
HN who wants to be hired/is hiring threads have so far the best ROI I've found.
- gwbas1c 5y ago
  Shhh... We need to keep it a secret! (Just kidding) But, worth pointing out: A job board is only good when it's low-spam; and that does require some moderation. If we start getting lots of spammy / uninteresting jobs; or job posts get lots of spammy applications; the usefulness of these threads will errode.
- shime 5y ago
  I second this, at least when compared with StackOverflow, Angel List and WeWorkRemotely.
- trevcanhuman 5y ago
  Have you also been added to random job mailing lists ? A few hours after I posted my first comment on the ‘who wants to be hired’ post I got ‘referred’ by another person (whom I don’t know) to a jobs site.
napolux 5y ago
I've spent 10 years in the classifieds (including jobs) market as a software engineer... As employee and/or employer I would go for more local/vertical websites/newsletters. There's no community such as StackOverflow outside of it, so you have to narrow down your scope somehow. Posting on LinkedIn is a mess. I've talked with many people looking for devs and they pay a lot of money for a lot of low-quality applications, it's even worse for remote companies: If they specifically state they look for people in EU timezones they'll receive anyway 100+ CVs from India or other countries. So, LinkedIn is a mess, general job posting websites miss all the stuff a developer/company hiring developers needs, I love HN jobs but it's too much of a niche, remoteok or similar are too broad in scope. There's space to build stuff and make some money if you play well your game. Shameless plug: I recently launched one newsletter for remote-friendly companies hiring Italian developers that already reached ~900 subscribers and I already received requests for sponsorships. So there's interest in these kind of stuff. www . fullremote . it info @ fullremote . it if you want to reach out. :)
- mohanmcgeek 5y ago
  > If they specifically state they look for people in EU timezones they'll receive anyway 100+ CVs from India or other countries. If they state EU _timezone_ and they receive applications from India which is *ahead* by 3.30H or Nigeria which is in about the same timezone, I don't see what the problem is. If they want only people from Europe, they should just say so.
  - napolux 5y ago
    India is not EU timezone. Nigeria is probably fine, but the guy I talked too was specifically referring to India.
  - napolux 5y ago
    Plus India is 5/5 and half hours ahead from CET
    - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
      India is 5.30 from UTC. I don't why someone in India would have difficulty starting at 11am. It's understandable if it's the other way around: Someone in the US starting at 4am
dmytton 5y ago
We've been featuring 3 devtools companies that are hiring for technical roles in the weekly https://console.dev/ https://console.dev/ newsletter since the start of this year. It's been seeing some very good click -> application rates. We're now in the process of building out profiles on the website and are working with the companies to add interesting details about things like dev processes, tools used, tech stack, how planning works, how on-call works, etc. Bit different from what SO does/did with our devtools focus. Our inspiration is the Joel Test, if anyone remembers that! https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/08/09/the-joel-test-12-steps-to-better-code/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/08/09/the-joel-test-12-s...
benjaminwootton 5y ago
I know this site likes to stay lean, but a jobs section outside of just YC companies would be cool.
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langitbiru 5y ago
Gergely Orosz put some alternatives to Stack Overflow Jobs: https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034 https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034
- nojonestownpls 5y ago
  Nitter link for the lazy: https://nitter.net/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034 https://nitter.net/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034
simonbarker87 5y ago
There isn’t really anything as general as StackOverflow in the software world that I can think of. Everything like https://remoteok.com https://remoteok.com and https://4dayweek.io https://4dayweek.io is too niche. https://keyvalues.com https://keyvalues.com maybe? I’m building something for career switchers at https://CareerSwitchToCoding.com https://CareerSwitchToCoding.com that’s nearly ready to go.
BrianOnHN 5y ago
Google for Jobs. It's the job board killer. I've been operating niche job boards for a decade, starting with angularjobs.com (for Angular developers). Before this, the job ad aggregators (Indeed, Zip recruiter, Talent, Talroo, and LinkedIn) were probably* the best bet. IMO, Google expects a return to business websites posting their jobs on their own domain[1]. This way, they can take all the job-ad $$$, too. *99.99% of jobs on most job boards come from these sources, as "backfill". The ones that don't use the job ads (and often brag about it) are just paying other companies to scrape the same jobs from the company webpages so that the "job board" outranks them in SEO, and use that "advantage" to sell premium listings. When I was working on ETL with these sources, combined there were ~10MM unique job postings in the US (late 2020). Edit: I wanted to add, be wary of job boards that pop up to fill this void. Anyone can create a job board in 2 minutes with Jobboard.io. However, building an audience, especially one that is worth advertising to, doesn't happen as quickly. [1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structured-data/job-posting https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structure... Thanks for the down votes. Would love to know which part of my anecdote was so offensive to you, though!
- truffdog 5y ago
  jobs.google.com?
  - BrianOnHN 5y ago
    Yeah, but the actual search results aren't on that subdomain, try [1] [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me#fpstate=tlexp&htiq=jobs%20near%20me https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me#fpstate=tlexp&h...
- Oras 5y ago
  You had downvotes? Why? Google are doing pretty good things when it comes to jobs to improve candidates' experience. Of course at the end all these features are to increase their ads revenue, but isn't that the goal for any business? Here are some quick points about Google for jobs: 1. You can view jobs from different sources at one place. 2. Google is highlighting the benefits (US Only right now). 3. Google is *claiming* to filter out the bad job descriptions. I said claiming because I can still see some bad ones. 4. Directly apply feature. They will highlight the website where you can actually apply directly instead of being redirected. 5. Removing expired jobs based on validation date so candidates do not see expired jobs. I wrote a blog post about the new Google for jobs algorithm back in October: https://jobdescription.ai/blog/google-for-jobs-new-algorithm/ https://jobdescription.ai/blog/google-for-jobs-new-algorithm...
abinaya_rl 5y ago
For companies/job seekers: I'm working on a remote job board called Remote Leaf[1], a curated remote job newsletter with a personalized jobs list based on the user's location/timezone and skills. Happy to provide a special discount for companies posting their remote jobs. Just send me a private message on Twitter or email(in bio)[2] 1. https://remoteleaf.com https://remoteleaf.com 2. https://twitter.com/abinaya_rl https://twitter.com/abinaya_rl
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0xbadcafebee 5y ago
Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out of a resume and detect keywords in a job listing. There is only so much data you can gleam from those sources and it's highly variable. You need to ask specific questions, like "Is Functional Programming the best form of programming?" or "Do you prefer asynchronous communication when dealing with coworkers?", or "Do you like being in an office?", or "Do you like working in finance?".
- BrianOnHN 5y ago
  Great idea. Being in the job board business for a decade, here's what I think would be the challenges: 1. Organizational structure mismatch: The people posting the jobs don't know the answers to the required questions. Outside of startups, job postings may be drafted by a manager, but a committee, legal, and/or HR has the final say on what's in the posting. An assistant or VA is often the POC when the job posting is copy&pasted into the job board. This can be overcome, but it's challenge to try to reeducate the organization. 2. Chicken-egg Problem: The challenging part here is that your racing against many existing players with large audiences, and hoping that they can't reverse-engineer the solution before you catch up. 3. User Habits: I can't think of any "normal" person I know that looks for jobs without some negative catalyst pushing them into it. Meanwhile, I imagine that single people are incentivized a bit differently. Not that this wouldn't work, I'm just not sure if it would work the same as for dating. For example, "why would I feel motivated to complete a long profile when I can just spam my pre-made resume, since it will be required at some point in the future anyway." There are good answers to that question, but now you're entering the same re-education waters as in challenge #1.
  - ineptech 5y ago
    4. As a hiring manager, I'd need different "profiles" for each team (one team mobs 24/7, another almost never mobs, etc) 5. What I would want as a candidate (a blunt and specific "warts and all" description of the team I'm joining) is not what employers would provide (vague, HR-y generalities like "we use cutting-edge technology" and "we prioritize work-life balance"). This was what turned me off from KeyValues. But I hope these are tractable, because I very much like the OKCupid model and would use the product if these could be solved.
higeorge13 5y ago
angel.co is also nice, got my last job from there.
swilliamsio 5y ago
I hope you'll permit me to gush about the UK job board https://cord.co/ https://cord.co/, I got my last job from there and there is something about cord that has forced companies to offer very quick turnaround in the interview process, which I greatly appreciate. That, combined with almost always having the salary and having nicely laid out standardised job descriptions, has made it my favourite job board by far.
- napolux 5y ago
  Super interesting, thanks for sharing!
warrenm 5y ago
Closest I can think of is weworkremotely.com (formerly wfh.io) - at least if you're looking for remote work :)
password4321 5y ago
paging https://www.stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ https://www.stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135#30160083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135#30160083
stinkygoose 5y ago
Whos hiring, on hackernews has given me the best replies, I think because its slightly personal when you email and say i came from hn. It got me a few interviews from which I got several offers, one of which I took. Applying on places like angellist/SO jobs etc gave me little in the way of success.
philmcp 5y ago
- https://remoteok.com/ https://remoteok.com/ - https://www.remote.io/ https://www.remote.io/ - https://remotive.io/ https://remotive.io/ - https://weworkremotely.com/ https://weworkremotely.com/ - https://4dayweek.io/ https://4dayweek.io/ (Disclaimer, I'm the founder)
amitm 5y ago
https://angel.co/jobs https://angel.co/jobs
bizzleDawg 5y ago
As a job searcher in the UK I quite liked https://otta.com/ https://otta.com/. Nice concise job listings from mostly great. No affiliation, I didn't end up taking a role found through them in even in the end!
- putsjoe 5y ago
  For anybody curious like I was, you answer a series of questions and at the end have to sign up to see any job postings. I didn't end up signing up but they could atleast provide a sample of the roles they have available instead of wasting the time of anybody that just wants a quick idea of what they have to offer.
hankchinaski 5y ago
I built https://golang.cafe https://golang.cafe as a niche curated job board and community for Go. I found myself jobs through it and so did many other Go engineers. What is different to other boards: - only job postings with clear salary ranges - no recruiter spam, apply to companies directly - hand curated and reviewed jobs - open source - filter by minimum salary When I m not looking for a Go job I just go straight to LinkedIn Also I know there was a curated list of job board alternatives here https://stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ https://stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ still all very niche I think
Oras 5y ago
I’m working on a search engine with TL;DR for the job posting. You can read the job highlights in a snap and then decide to read the full description. You can also search as you type and filter jobs with salary or signup bonuses. Still a work in progress, but you can take a look: https://www.jobadsnow.com https://www.jobadsnow.com edit: I forgot to mention that currently, it is US-only jobs.
cushychicken 5y ago
I mean, if you're specialized in FPGA or RTL design, the answer is obviously the job board I help run: www.rtljobs.com
afandian 5y ago
I contacted StackOverflow to see if we could post a job. The sales rep said that they only took subscription accounts, not one-off postings. They were open and helpful, but as I only had one job to post, they said they couldn't help us. It was disappointing, as it's the kind of place I'd like our candidates to find us! If you build the replacement, please accommodate places that don't have constant churn!
fredgrott 5y ago
Katz is restarting GeekList to fill that void along with some other features
jimmieego 5y ago
I vote for https://www.trueup.io/ https://www.trueup.io/
staindk 5y ago
I'm very late to this thread but want to mention OfferZen[1]. They are massive in the dev job seeking space in South Africa, and I think as of recently a country or two in Europe. The company was conceived in SiValley but the founders opted to come back home to RSA to try it out[2]. The gist of how it works as a dev is that you do an automated entrance test (if you're a junior - and it was quite easy IME), and once you are in you set up your profile and wait for companies to contact you about positions they want to fill. You then decide (with input from your assigned 'career coach' if you wish) whether you want to go forward with an interview etc. For myself and everyone I've spoken to who has used the service, it was a great experience. Infinitely better than trawling through Indeed and such. More reading here[3] [1] https://www.offerzen.com/ https://www.offerzen.com/ [2] https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/328018 https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/328018 [3] http://docs.offerzen.com/en/articles/5977855-what-makes-job-searching-on-offerzen-different http://docs.offerzen.com/en/articles/5977855-what-makes-job-...
NiagaraThistle 5y ago
I'd say maybe remoteok.com but it focuses sole on remote jobs. I know Pietr Levels was looking for a way to add features that would draw SO users to RemoteOk when he learned SO job board was shutting down. Might be worth a look.

167 points by dgarud 5y ago

After stack overflow closes their jobs section, which site would you consider a replacement, both as employee and/or employer?

ianwalter 5y ago

Surprised no one has mentioned https://hired.com https://hired.com

hurflmurfl 5y ago

For people like me, who have not heard about this: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-jobs-developer-story https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j... > Jobs and Developer Story will no longer be supported as of April 1, 2022.

erikon 5y ago
Could it be April Fools'?
jt2190 5y ago
Also, previous discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135
- password4321 5y ago
  Also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30023343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30023343
jader201 5y ago
Wow, thanks, I had no idea. I even missed the previous HN thread on it (I follow HN150 on Twitter, so mostly only check out stories that hit 150 points). What’s crazy is that I haven’t received a single email about them deprecating Jobs. I think they have my most up-to-date resume, so I may have lost that (maybe they’ll send something out later this month, but seems like most companies give a longer heads-up when deprecating products).
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  I got an email about it from SO.
- Icathian 5y ago
  I may be confused. April 1, 2022 is almost a month from now. You haven't lost anything yet?
- ams92 5y ago
  I got multiple emails from them about the depreciation.
- jesstelford 5y ago
  You've still got a few days (up to March 31st)! You can save it as PDF directly from your Developer Story, but if you want it in another format, you'll have to use a third party tool. Shameless plug: I was pretty bummed too, so I built a JSON exporter that anyone can use: https://developerstory.dev/stackoverflow https://developerstory.dev/stackoverflow
randomsilence 5y ago
What's their reason for shutting it down? The older submissions mention that they want to focus on managing company images. Why would they shut down before establishing the new income stream? What happens if it doesn't work out? Will they shut down completely in a year or two? Besides, if they are not operating at a loss, why not keep the job board running and improve it until it is the market leader? They know what people search. Who is better positioned to bring programmers and companies together? What do I miss that makes it impossible for them to continue?
- randomsilence 5y ago
  Puneet Mulchandani's answer is there: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-jobs-developer-story/415408#415408 https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415293/sunsetting-j... > less than 1% of our monthly users engaged with Jobs > Most employers found our sourcing system too restrictive or difficult to work with > We would need to spend a lot more time & effort to address these issues But why does it matter? It's all automated.

tough 5y ago

HN who wants to be hired/is hiring threads have so far the best ROI I've found.

gwbas1c 5y ago
Shhh... We need to keep it a secret! (Just kidding) But, worth pointing out: A job board is only good when it's low-spam; and that does require some moderation. If we start getting lots of spammy / uninteresting jobs; or job posts get lots of spammy applications; the usefulness of these threads will errode.
shime 5y ago
I second this, at least when compared with StackOverflow, Angel List and WeWorkRemotely.
trevcanhuman 5y ago
Have you also been added to random job mailing lists ? A few hours after I posted my first comment on the ‘who wants to be hired’ post I got ‘referred’ by another person (whom I don’t know) to a jobs site.

napolux 5y ago

I've spent 10 years in the classifieds (including jobs) market as a software engineer... As employee and/or employer I would go for more local/vertical websites/newsletters. There's no community such as StackOverflow outside of it, so you have to narrow down your scope somehow. Posting on LinkedIn is a mess. I've talked with many people looking for devs and they pay a lot of money for a lot of low-quality applications, it's even worse for remote companies: If they specifically state they look for people in EU timezones they'll receive anyway 100+ CVs from India or other countries. So, LinkedIn is a mess, general job posting websites miss all the stuff a developer/company hiring developers needs, I love HN jobs but it's too much of a niche, remoteok or similar are too broad in scope. There's space to build stuff and make some money if you play well your game. Shameless plug: I recently launched one newsletter for remote-friendly companies hiring Italian developers that already reached ~900 subscribers and I already received requests for sponsorships. So there's interest in these kind of stuff. www . fullremote . it info @ fullremote . it if you want to reach out. :)

mohanmcgeek 5y ago
> If they specifically state they look for people in EU timezones they'll receive anyway 100+ CVs from India or other countries. If they state EU _timezone_ and they receive applications from India which is *ahead* by 3.30H or Nigeria which is in about the same timezone, I don't see what the problem is. If they want only people from Europe, they should just say so.
- napolux 5y ago
  India is not EU timezone. Nigeria is probably fine, but the guy I talked too was specifically referring to India.
- napolux 5y ago
  Plus India is 5/5 and half hours ahead from CET
  - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
    India is 5.30 from UTC. I don't why someone in India would have difficulty starting at 11am. It's understandable if it's the other way around: Someone in the US starting at 4am

dmytton 5y ago

We've been featuring 3 devtools companies that are hiring for technical roles in the weekly https://console.dev/ https://console.dev/ newsletter since the start of this year. It's been seeing some very good click -> application rates. We're now in the process of building out profiles on the website and are working with the companies to add interesting details about things like dev processes, tools used, tech stack, how planning works, how on-call works, etc. Bit different from what SO does/did with our devtools focus. Our inspiration is the Joel Test, if anyone remembers that! https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/08/09/the-joel-test-12-steps-to-better-code/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/08/09/the-joel-test-12-s...

benjaminwootton 5y ago

I know this site likes to stay lean, but a jobs section outside of just YC companies would be cool.

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langitbiru 5y ago

Gergely Orosz put some alternatives to Stack Overflow Jobs: https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034 https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034

nojonestownpls 5y ago
Nitter link for the lazy: https://nitter.net/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034 https://nitter.net/GergelyOrosz/status/1457665269267116034

simonbarker87 5y ago

There isn’t really anything as general as StackOverflow in the software world that I can think of. Everything like https://remoteok.com https://remoteok.com and https://4dayweek.io https://4dayweek.io is too niche. https://keyvalues.com https://keyvalues.com maybe? I’m building something for career switchers at https://CareerSwitchToCoding.com https://CareerSwitchToCoding.com that’s nearly ready to go.

BrianOnHN 5y ago

Google for Jobs. It's the job board killer. I've been operating niche job boards for a decade, starting with angularjobs.com (for Angular developers). Before this, the job ad aggregators (Indeed, Zip recruiter, Talent, Talroo, and LinkedIn) were probably* the best bet. IMO, Google expects a return to business websites posting their jobs on their own domain[1]. This way, they can take all the job-ad $$$, too. *99.99% of jobs on most job boards come from these sources, as "backfill". The ones that don't use the job ads (and often brag about it) are just paying other companies to scrape the same jobs from the company webpages so that the "job board" outranks them in SEO, and use that "advantage" to sell premium listings. When I was working on ETL with these sources, combined there were ~10MM unique job postings in the US (late 2020). Edit: I wanted to add, be wary of job boards that pop up to fill this void. Anyone can create a job board in 2 minutes with Jobboard.io. However, building an audience, especially one that is worth advertising to, doesn't happen as quickly. [1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structured-data/job-posting https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structure... Thanks for the down votes. Would love to know which part of my anecdote was so offensive to you, though!

truffdog 5y ago
jobs.google.com?
- BrianOnHN 5y ago
  Yeah, but the actual search results aren't on that subdomain, try [1] [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me#fpstate=tlexp&htiq=jobs%20near%20me https://www.google.com/search?q=jobs+near+me#fpstate=tlexp&h...
Oras 5y ago
You had downvotes? Why? Google are doing pretty good things when it comes to jobs to improve candidates' experience. Of course at the end all these features are to increase their ads revenue, but isn't that the goal for any business? Here are some quick points about Google for jobs: 1. You can view jobs from different sources at one place. 2. Google is highlighting the benefits (US Only right now). 3. Google is *claiming* to filter out the bad job descriptions. I said claiming because I can still see some bad ones. 4. Directly apply feature. They will highlight the website where you can actually apply directly instead of being redirected. 5. Removing expired jobs based on validation date so candidates do not see expired jobs. I wrote a blog post about the new Google for jobs algorithm back in October: https://jobdescription.ai/blog/google-for-jobs-new-algorithm/ https://jobdescription.ai/blog/google-for-jobs-new-algorithm...

abinaya_rl 5y ago

For companies/job seekers: I'm working on a remote job board called Remote Leaf[1], a curated remote job newsletter with a personalized jobs list based on the user's location/timezone and skills. Happy to provide a special discount for companies posting their remote jobs. Just send me a private message on Twitter or email(in bio)[2] 1. https://remoteleaf.com https://remoteleaf.com 2. https://twitter.com/abinaya_rl https://twitter.com/abinaya_rl

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0xbadcafebee 5y ago

Somebody please make OkCupid for Jobs. Both employers and applicants fill out questions that the community curates (so they can be job-specific, industry-specific, etc). Both employers and employees get matches via algorithm rather than receiving 100 random resumes or 100 random job suggestions that have nothing to do with you. Existing sites do this, but very poorly, because they only try to detect information out of a resume and detect keywords in a job listing. There is only so much data you can gleam from those sources and it's highly variable. You need to ask specific questions, like "Is Functional Programming the best form of programming?" or "Do you prefer asynchronous communication when dealing with coworkers?", or "Do you like being in an office?", or "Do you like working in finance?".

BrianOnHN 5y ago
Great idea. Being in the job board business for a decade, here's what I think would be the challenges: 1. Organizational structure mismatch: The people posting the jobs don't know the answers to the required questions. Outside of startups, job postings may be drafted by a manager, but a committee, legal, and/or HR has the final say on what's in the posting. An assistant or VA is often the POC when the job posting is copy&pasted into the job board. This can be overcome, but it's challenge to try to reeducate the organization. 2. Chicken-egg Problem: The challenging part here is that your racing against many existing players with large audiences, and hoping that they can't reverse-engineer the solution before you catch up. 3. User Habits: I can't think of any "normal" person I know that looks for jobs without some negative catalyst pushing them into it. Meanwhile, I imagine that single people are incentivized a bit differently. Not that this wouldn't work, I'm just not sure if it would work the same as for dating. For example, "why would I feel motivated to complete a long profile when I can just spam my pre-made resume, since it will be required at some point in the future anyway." There are good answers to that question, but now you're entering the same re-education waters as in challenge #1.
- ineptech 5y ago
  4. As a hiring manager, I'd need different "profiles" for each team (one team mobs 24/7, another almost never mobs, etc) 5. What I would want as a candidate (a blunt and specific "warts and all" description of the team I'm joining) is not what employers would provide (vague, HR-y generalities like "we use cutting-edge technology" and "we prioritize work-life balance"). This was what turned me off from KeyValues. But I hope these are tractable, because I very much like the OKCupid model and would use the product if these could be solved.

higeorge13 5y ago

angel.co is also nice, got my last job from there.

swilliamsio 5y ago

I hope you'll permit me to gush about the UK job board https://cord.co/ https://cord.co/, I got my last job from there and there is something about cord that has forced companies to offer very quick turnaround in the interview process, which I greatly appreciate. That, combined with almost always having the salary and having nicely laid out standardised job descriptions, has made it my favourite job board by far.

napolux 5y ago
Super interesting, thanks for sharing!

warrenm 5y ago

Closest I can think of is weworkremotely.com (formerly wfh.io) - at least if you're looking for remote work :)

password4321 5y ago

paging https://www.stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ https://www.stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135#30160083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30134135#30160083

stinkygoose 5y ago

Whos hiring, on hackernews has given me the best replies, I think because its slightly personal when you email and say i came from hn. It got me a few interviews from which I got several offers, one of which I took. Applying on places like angellist/SO jobs etc gave me little in the way of success.

philmcp 5y ago

- https://remoteok.com/ https://remoteok.com/ - https://www.remote.io/ https://www.remote.io/ - https://remotive.io/ https://remotive.io/ - https://weworkremotely.com/ https://weworkremotely.com/ - https://4dayweek.io/ https://4dayweek.io/ (Disclaimer, I'm the founder)

amitm 5y ago

https://angel.co/jobs https://angel.co/jobs

bizzleDawg 5y ago

As a job searcher in the UK I quite liked https://otta.com/ https://otta.com/. Nice concise job listings from mostly great. No affiliation, I didn't end up taking a role found through them in even in the end!

putsjoe 5y ago
For anybody curious like I was, you answer a series of questions and at the end have to sign up to see any job postings. I didn't end up signing up but they could atleast provide a sample of the roles they have available instead of wasting the time of anybody that just wants a quick idea of what they have to offer.

hankchinaski 5y ago

I built https://golang.cafe https://golang.cafe as a niche curated job board and community for Go. I found myself jobs through it and so did many other Go engineers. What is different to other boards: - only job postings with clear salary ranges - no recruiter spam, apply to companies directly - hand curated and reviewed jobs - open source - filter by minimum salary When I m not looking for a Go job I just go straight to LinkedIn Also I know there was a curated list of job board alternatives here https://stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ https://stackoverflowjobsalternatives.com/ still all very niche I think

Oras 5y ago

I’m working on a search engine with TL;DR for the job posting. You can read the job highlights in a snap and then decide to read the full description. You can also search as you type and filter jobs with salary or signup bonuses. Still a work in progress, but you can take a look: https://www.jobadsnow.com https://www.jobadsnow.com edit: I forgot to mention that currently, it is US-only jobs.

cushychicken 5y ago

I mean, if you're specialized in FPGA or RTL design, the answer is obviously the job board I help run: www.rtljobs.com

afandian 5y ago

I contacted StackOverflow to see if we could post a job. The sales rep said that they only took subscription accounts, not one-off postings. They were open and helpful, but as I only had one job to post, they said they couldn't help us. It was disappointing, as it's the kind of place I'd like our candidates to find us! If you build the replacement, please accommodate places that don't have constant churn!

fredgrott 5y ago

Katz is restarting GeekList to fill that void along with some other features

jimmieego 5y ago

I vote for https://www.trueup.io/ https://www.trueup.io/

staindk 5y ago

I'm very late to this thread but want to mention OfferZen[1]. They are massive in the dev job seeking space in South Africa, and I think as of recently a country or two in Europe. The company was conceived in SiValley but the founders opted to come back home to RSA to try it out[2]. The gist of how it works as a dev is that you do an automated entrance test (if you're a junior - and it was quite easy IME), and once you are in you set up your profile and wait for companies to contact you about positions they want to fill. You then decide (with input from your assigned 'career coach' if you wish) whether you want to go forward with an interview etc. For myself and everyone I've spoken to who has used the service, it was a great experience. Infinitely better than trawling through Indeed and such. More reading here[3] [1] https://www.offerzen.com/ https://www.offerzen.com/ [2] https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/328018 https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/328018 [3] http://docs.offerzen.com/en/articles/5977855-what-makes-job-searching-on-offerzen-different http://docs.offerzen.com/en/articles/5977855-what-makes-job-...

NiagaraThistle 5y ago

I'd say maybe remoteok.com but it focuses sole on remote jobs. I know Pietr Levels was looking for a way to add features that would draw SO users to RemoteOk when he learned SO job board was shutting down. Might be worth a look.