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Gary doesn't know any more than anyone else, and all we know is the propaganda we consume :-(

sweetheart 5y ago
I don't think it's a case of knowing more. What more is there to know, anyway? Unless we believe that there are extremely relevant moral or logistical justifications to what Russia is doing, we should have enough information to act. And the presence of propaganda (however that's being defined now), while super unfortunate, doesn't relieve us of our duty to act when there is injustice in the world. It can make it hard to know things, but we can still rely on what we can be confident is true: innocent people are being massacred. And if that moral argument alone doesn't seem to matter, the logistical one should; that we are the frog in the pot while the water slowly heats to a boil. It becomes a matter of confidence that the violence won't end here, regardless of how Ukraine shakes out.
bryanrasmussen 5y ago
well I mean I would expect him to know more than me because I'm not Russian and I haven't as yet ever been an important asset for the Russian intelligence services to track.
- CrzyLngPwd 5y ago
  You are important to me :-)
SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
I don't think that's accurate. Mr Kasparov has been covering Russian politics for many years. e.g. from 2013 > "In chess the rules are fixed and the result is unknown, while too often in politics the results are fixed and the rules unknown, esp in Russia." https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/384172818063056896 https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/384172818063056896
- CrzyLngPwd 5y ago
  Covering politics can range from "feverishly refreshing hackernews" to "Chatting to Mr Putin every week over a game of chess" (and letting him win, obvs). The one thing I do know, is that I do not know.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    >Covering politics can range from "feverishly refreshing hackernews" to "Chatting to Mr Putin every week over a game of chess" Indeed. > The one thing I do know, is that I do not know. Any you made zero effort to find out anything at all about the matter before asserting that "Gary doesn't know any more than anyone else" (about Russian politics) It's "Garry" not "Gary" BTW. He has written a book on the subject too BTW. Written in 2015, and seems to have been proved accurate by recent events. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24945308-winter-is-coming https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24945308-winter-is-comin...

I don't think it's a case of knowing more. What more is there to know, anyway? Unless we believe that there are extremely relevant moral or logistical justifications to what Russia is doing, we should have enough information to act. And the presence of propaganda (however that's being defined now), while super unfortunate, doesn't relieve us of our duty to act when there is injustice in the world. It can make it hard to know things, but we can still rely on what we can be confident is true: innocent people are being massacred. And if that moral argument alone doesn't seem to matter, the logistical one should; that we are the frog in the pot while the water slowly heats to a boil. It becomes a matter of confidence that the violence won't end here, regardless of how Ukraine shakes out.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

well I mean I would expect him to know more than me because I'm not Russian and I haven't as yet ever been an important asset for the Russian intelligence services to track.

CrzyLngPwd 5y ago
You are important to me :-)

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago

I don't think that's accurate. Mr Kasparov has been covering Russian politics for many years. e.g. from 2013 > "In chess the rules are fixed and the result is unknown, while too often in politics the results are fixed and the rules unknown, esp in Russia." https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/384172818063056896 https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/384172818063056896

CrzyLngPwd 5y ago
Covering politics can range from "feverishly refreshing hackernews" to "Chatting to Mr Putin every week over a game of chess" (and letting him win, obvs). The one thing I do know, is that I do not know.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  >Covering politics can range from "feverishly refreshing hackernews" to "Chatting to Mr Putin every week over a game of chess" Indeed. > The one thing I do know, is that I do not know. Any you made zero effort to find out anything at all about the matter before asserting that "Gary doesn't know any more than anyone else" (about Russian politics) It's "Garry" not "Gary" BTW. He has written a book on the subject too BTW. Written in 2015, and seems to have been proved accurate by recent events. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24945308-winter-is-coming https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24945308-winter-is-comin...