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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/missouri-man-killed-in-independence-crash-involving-malfunctioning-tesla/ar-AAUq49e?ocid=msedgntp https://www.msn.com/en-us

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/missouri-man-killed-in-independence-crash-involving-malfunctioning-tesla/ar-AAUq49e?ocid=msedgntp https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/missouri-man-killed-in-... "Investigators said a 2019 Tesla had a mechanical issue that caused the vehicle to lose power and stop in the middle of the interstate." Nothing to do with Autopilot or FSD like everyone is assuming. Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to a Tesla...

mardiyah 5y ago
the only one makes more sense is "phantom braking"
- antattack 5y ago
  Most likely scenarios: -Driver stopped himself due to medical reason (driver was 74). -Car's power-train issue caused it to stop. Less likely in dual-motor configuration. Even less likely to happen suddenly. -Autopilot was on and driver fell asleep - Autopilot is programmed to come to a stop if driver input is not detected. Because it's Tesla there's great deal of attention given to Autopilot but in this circumstance, where car stopped completely, driver most likely have been unable to make the car go (for medical or technical reasons).
- martindbp 5y ago
  Yeah sure, you can make up whatever story you want, as everyone who hates Tesla seems to be doing. Not saying phantom braking could cause a similar accident, but lets keep to the facts here.
Goz3rr 5y ago
> At first, the Independence Police Department speculated that a mechanical issue caused the Tesla to lose power, but officials are now saying they are unsure what made the vehicle stop unexpectedly https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-crash-driver-killed-after-car-stops-on-highway-2022-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-crash-driver-killed-af...
lkxijlewlf 5y ago
> Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to a Tesla... That's objectively false. Hyundai/Kia recently had a huge recall that was in the news. I think because Tesla may be considered a bit of a "tech" company, there may be some bias here on HN.
- majewsky 5y ago
  When all Kia cars have, say, a defective headlight, it's news. When your mom's Kia's headlights go out, it's not news.
maeln 5y ago
> Nothing to do with Autopilot or FSD like everyone is assuming. Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to with a Tesla... "February 28, the police have walked back that statement telling Insider that they’re unsure of what made the vehicle stop unexpectedly." And aside from that, other car manufacturer are also often in the news when one of their car are involved in some crash and are suspected to have an issue. But it is true that Tesla is probably even more talk about, and the reason is exactly because it has Autopilot. It is a new tech no everybody is very interested, which also brings a lot of attention to its potential failure. I think that is pretty reasonable.
taylodl 5y ago
> Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to a Tesla... Yeah, we never heard about Toyota's sudden acceleration issue that caused accidents and even deaths. Or when Ford Pintos were catching fire when hit from behind. Nope, only poor Tesla gets picked on.

mardiyah 5y ago

the only one makes more sense is "phantom braking"

antattack 5y ago
Most likely scenarios: -Driver stopped himself due to medical reason (driver was 74). -Car's power-train issue caused it to stop. Less likely in dual-motor configuration. Even less likely to happen suddenly. -Autopilot was on and driver fell asleep - Autopilot is programmed to come to a stop if driver input is not detected. Because it's Tesla there's great deal of attention given to Autopilot but in this circumstance, where car stopped completely, driver most likely have been unable to make the car go (for medical or technical reasons).
martindbp 5y ago
Yeah sure, you can make up whatever story you want, as everyone who hates Tesla seems to be doing. Not saying phantom braking could cause a similar accident, but lets keep to the facts here.

Goz3rr 5y ago

> At first, the Independence Police Department speculated that a mechanical issue caused the Tesla to lose power, but officials are now saying they are unsure what made the vehicle stop unexpectedly https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-crash-driver-killed-after-car-stops-on-highway-2022-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-crash-driver-killed-af...

lkxijlewlf 5y ago

> Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to a Tesla... That's objectively false. Hyundai/Kia recently had a huge recall that was in the news. I think because Tesla may be considered a bit of a "tech" company, there may be some bias here on HN.

majewsky 5y ago
When all Kia cars have, say, a defective headlight, it's news. When your mom's Kia's headlights go out, it's not news.

maeln 5y ago

> Nothing to do with Autopilot or FSD like everyone is assuming. Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to with a Tesla... "February 28, the police have walked back that statement telling Insider that they’re unsure of what made the vehicle stop unexpectedly." And aside from that, other car manufacturer are also often in the news when one of their car are involved in some crash and are suspected to have an issue. But it is true that Tesla is probably even more talk about, and the reason is exactly because it has Autopilot. It is a new tech no everybody is very interested, which also brings a lot of attention to its potential failure. I think that is pretty reasonable.

taylodl 5y ago

> Cars fail all the time, but it's only news if it happens to a Tesla... Yeah, we never heard about Toyota's sudden acceleration issue that caused accidents and even deaths. Or when Ford Pintos were catching fire when hit from behind. Nope, only poor Tesla gets picked on.