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So tell us, which of the letters in USSR is for "Russia"?

by usrusr 5y ago

type0 5y ago
RSFSR - Russia is officially recognized as continuation state of USSR by the UN
- oddmiral 5y ago
  Can you point to an official document, such as voting by UN members, to put RF into security council of UN? I cannot find any. RF is not a founder of UN, so it puzzling for me, how they are able to sit permanently in Security Council. Is there an exception for RF in UN statute written somewhere?
  - type0 5y ago
    > Can you point to official documents, such as voting by UN members to put RF into security council of UN? No idea, I haven't seen any. Another thing Russia inherited from USSR war nukes as well as debt.
    - type0 5y ago
      > from USSR war nukes edit (I misspelled): from USSR was nukes
  - ArnoVW 5y ago
    I wondered the same thing recently. Found this legal academic analysis of the succession of member states. The conclusion part made me think that the subject was negociated between constituant parts in the devolution treaty. However the paper does highlight that the UN is under ever more pressure for rule-based functioning and transparency, so who knows. Personally if it were me, I'd rather try and get Russia's membership or voting rights suspended, based on the fact that article 4 states that the UN is for peace loving nations. In the current climate this has a chance of passing in the general assembly, where the veto can not be used. Russia has evoked article 41 'right of self-defense' but that seems problematic. Another question is if you want to exclude Russia. It sets a precedent, and erodes the position of the UN if not (near-) unanimous. The previous vote had 144 out of 193 voting against Russia, with only 5 against (Russia, Belarus, Venezuela, etc) https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1338&context=cilj https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti...
- p_l 5y ago
  Turns out it's just inertia, also the last constituent member of USSR to leave (and thus logical successor) is... Kazakhstan
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    Not just inertia, but also military and nukes
s1artibartfast 5y ago
None, but unlike Ukraine, russia had the codes and took them when they left the USSR

So tell us, which of the letters in USSR is for "Russia"?

by usrusr 5y ago

So tell us, which of the letters in USSR is for "Russia"?

type0 5y ago

RSFSR - Russia is officially recognized as continuation state of USSR by the UN

oddmiral 5y ago
Can you point to an official document, such as voting by UN members, to put RF into security council of UN? I cannot find any. RF is not a founder of UN, so it puzzling for me, how they are able to sit permanently in Security Council. Is there an exception for RF in UN statute written somewhere?
- type0 5y ago
  > Can you point to official documents, such as voting by UN members to put RF into security council of UN? No idea, I haven't seen any. Another thing Russia inherited from USSR war nukes as well as debt.
  - type0 5y ago
    > from USSR war nukes edit (I misspelled): from USSR was nukes
- ArnoVW 5y ago
  I wondered the same thing recently. Found this legal academic analysis of the succession of member states. The conclusion part made me think that the subject was negociated between constituant parts in the devolution treaty. However the paper does highlight that the UN is under ever more pressure for rule-based functioning and transparency, so who knows. Personally if it were me, I'd rather try and get Russia's membership or voting rights suspended, based on the fact that article 4 states that the UN is for peace loving nations. In the current climate this has a chance of passing in the general assembly, where the veto can not be used. Russia has evoked article 41 'right of self-defense' but that seems problematic. Another question is if you want to exclude Russia. It sets a precedent, and erodes the position of the UN if not (near-) unanimous. The previous vote had 144 out of 193 voting against Russia, with only 5 against (Russia, Belarus, Venezuela, etc) https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1338&context=cilj https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti...
p_l 5y ago
Turns out it's just inertia, also the last constituent member of USSR to leave (and thus logical successor) is... Kazakhstan
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  Not just inertia, but also military and nukes

s1artibartfast 5y ago

None, but unlike Ukraine, russia had the codes and took them when they left the USSR