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Interslavic Language (2017)
- dbrgn 5y agoFrom a very quick glance, it seems that Interslavic is to Slovio what Interlingua is to Esperanto. Esperanto is a language that's simple and easy to learn (at least if you're familiar with romance languages), but not necessarily easy to understand if you're not familiar with it. On the other hand, if you're familiar with 2 or 3 romance languages, try to read https://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua https://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua. Even if you've never heard of Interlingua, you'll probably understand most of it. Interlingua is optimized for easy understanding, which means that it adopts common words from romance languages even if they're not totally consistent with the rest of the language. This means that ease of understanding comes at the cost of language consistency and ease of learning. For people in central Europe, I'd say Esperanto is easier to learn (to speak) and Interlingua is easier to understand.
- riffraff 5y agoAs an Italian, I must admit this is easier to understand than most other romance languages for me.
- codezero 5y agoEnglish native speaker with a few years of academic Spanish, ditto.
- arc-in-space 5y agoHell, I can understand a lot of this with English alone.
- natoliniak 5y agoAs a Pole, Interslavic "feels" more natural and more intuitive for me. I wonder how other slavic speakers feel.
- stared 5y agoIn the https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30552570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30552570 thread there is consensus among Slavs that InterSlavic is easier and more... Slavic.
- maerqin 5y agoAs a Pole it looks to me like Czech or Slovak.
- Tajnymag 5y agoAs a Czech, Interslavic feels to me like a czech written by a dystrophic person. It's really natural. EDIT: Not "dystrophic" but "dysgraphic".
- aix1 5y agoDystrophic? (As in: affected by tissue degeneration?)
- Tajnymag 5y agoOh, no. A typo. I meant "dysgraphic". Someone affected by issues with writing)
- The_Colonel 5y agoTo give a second opinion of a Czech person, it doesn't look anything like Czech text to me. If I had to guess, I would say Serbo-Croatian or Slovenian (probably because of the orthography).
- PufPufPuf 5y agoFrom my experience, a new instance of a panslavic language is inevitably created once different Slavs end up drinking together.
- e3a8 5y agoAs someone speaking bosnian, I can read & understand it. Feels weird having to replace "y" as "i" in my head as we don't have "y" in our alphabet, and also some cases feel off.
- Tsarbomb 5y agoAs a Serb, I always need to remember that Bosnian-Serbian written in Cyrillic is basically a 200 year old language.
- PufPufPuf 5y agoIt might be interesting to compare these conlangs with actual Slavic languages in terms of pan-Slavic understandability. Slavic languages close to the "center" between western, eastern and southern could score pretty well, like Slovak.
- shimonabi 5y agoThis language is very similar to my mother tongue Slovenian. There was even a theory in the 19th century that Slovenian was the ancestor of Old church Slavonic (Panonian theory).
- pavlovskyi 5y agoI like the idea, never heard of it before but from I always lived thinking that reducing variance between Slavic languages is needed because (as a Pole) I understand context but it is hard to perform conversation with different pairs (Slavian PL for example). Good to know that that project exist, maybe it is an niche to use some ml/ai methods to generate pretrained model for generating speech etc. Especially in huggingface like era it could be relatively easy and helpful.And also catchy, just look at that buzzwords ' AI help to unify slavic languages'.
- Paul_S 5y agoThat is amazing and is melting my brain. Not sure how useful it can be for normal communication but would work great for signs and notices as you'd only need one version to cover a quarter of Europe. It's a really well made page, it's fascinating to see the process how is was derived. Who is funding this? Bless them.
- samatman 5y agoI posted this as a fan of Interlingua, as the name makes clear this is a project from the same philosophy of constructing languages. The page on Orthography shows the sort of care I would expect from such a project: http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/orthography.html#standard_alphabet http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/orthography.html#standard_a... Your idea of signs and notices could be written in both the Latin and Cyrillic orthographies, and be more legible than not for more than 300 million people. Interlingua has similar advantages for anyone fluent in a Romance language.
- Paul_S 5y agoAre there cyrilic using people who don't know the latin alphabet? I mean in reality, not in theory.
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- justsomehnguy 5y agoIf they didn't learn it - why should they? Sure there is a common application in Math/Algebra and Physics (if the person reading the sign even bothered to learn and didn't forgot everything the second they stepped out) and in product/brand names in the everyday life, but there is a difference between knowing the alphabet and having a vague idea how some letters are pronounced. Also there is enough of false friends (like `B` or `P`) to completely jumble the pronunciation and consequently fail the understanding.
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- goldfeld 5y agoI wonder if it could be integrated with the Cyrillic Polish idea, would be the ultimate conlang, ultimately exotic for non-slavs and possibly practical.
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- dang 5y agoRelated ongoing thread: Slovio, an international simplified Slavic language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30552570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30552570 - March 2022 (179 comments)
- jonnycomputer 5y agoI wonder if there is something similar for English. Of course English is half Germanic, half Romance, but ...
- jonnycomputer 5y agoIs this primarily intended to written/read, or spoken?