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Interslavic seems just as understandable to me. Sometimes I wish all slavic people had one country, one language. Let's call it Slavia.
by wheelerof4te 5y ago
Interslavic seems just as understandable to me. Sometimes I wish all slavic people had one country, one language.
Let's call it Slavia.
- medo-bear 5y agodraw a possible map of Slavia and see it from a perspective of neighbouring non-Slavic countries. would you find such a political structure threatening? this is the reason i think it would be a bad idea. what would be nice in my opinion is a larger inter-slavic cultural exchange: in academic research, text books, litterature, music, film, etc
- wheelerof4te 5y agoThey find us treatening even now. But yes, cultural exchange can be a good first step.
- vkou 5y agoI don't know, I think after two decades of Cold War II, Western Europe will warm up to Slavs living east of Bialystok. Nothing brings people closer together than a common enemy. [1] [1] See: The Brits and the French, the French and the Germans, etc, etc.
- drno123 5y agoWe had Yugoslavia, for southern Slavic people. Didn’t work out.
- wheelerof4te 5y agoIt did not work out because the binding ideology wasn't pan-slavism, but rather bad mix of communism and socialism. Also, instead of returning to our root slavic religion, we got atheism. Without any form of religion, people can not feel that deep bond. Especially Slavic people, who are naturaly very religious. Yugoslavia was a mistake, but not for reasons you might think.
- zozbot234 5y agoI'm pretty sure that "returning to the root Slavic religion" would involve offering massive cow sacrifices to the thunder god Perun in exchange for long life and prosperity. Not sure if that's what you had in mind, though!
- asta123 5y agoThere were decentralized Christian-like religions like Bogomils (Cathars in Western Europe) in south Slavic parts before modern centralized religions. Maybe those would work better with Slavs who seem to not organize well around centralized sources of power.
- wheelerof4te 5y agoMany of us offer sacrifices today, too. In most Slavic countries, it is customary to slay and eat a pig on certain holidays, like Christmas and our Slava. In the US you kill turkeys for Thanksgiving. How different is that compared to other "sacrifices"?
- emteycz 5y agoWe do it for the fun and food, not for some pseudo gods.
- wheelerof4te 5y agoWe can do it for both. Why not? Perun is a "pseudo" God, as much as Zeus was a pseudo God. And if they are pseudo gods, then Jesus Christ is a pseudo God, too. Gods exist as long as people believe in them.
- bobthechef 5y ago
- emteycz 5y agoBecause we mostly don't like gods, at least here in CZ.
- stared 5y agoThere is such an idea of a greater connection between Slavic nations called Pan-Slavism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism). When it comes to "one country" - the USSR aimed at that, and from the perspective of hundreds of millions of people, it wasn't the best idea. Plus, I think that ethnic states are one of the worst inventions of the 19th century, which accelerated a lot after WWI & WWII. I prefer cities where e.g. 1/3 were Polish, 1/3 German, and 1/3 Jewish (as for my pre-war hometown) rather than monoliths. Even in the middle ages, cities had multiple languages and cultures (e.g. German-speaking for trading cities in Slavic and Baltic countries). Right now, even in many multicultural cities, it is often implicitly assumed that there is the "default language" and an ethnic/national/cultural majority.
- ajuc 5y agoThe problem with panslavism is that Russians would have majority, and Russian states were almost always authoritharian and oppressive.
- wheelerof4te 5y agoWe had rather brutal monarchies in the West, too. Colonialism was not altruistic trip around the globe. Almost all former European monarchies, from England to Belgium, were authoritarian imperialistic countries.
- ajuc 5y agoThere're different levels of authoritarianism and Russia was usually at the far end. Especially compared to the other Slavic countries it annexed like Novogrod Republic of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which had parliaments and elections in 1500s. But even compared to the absolutist monarchies of the west Russia was more authoritarian. For example serfdom was only abolished in Russia in 1861.
- krzyk 5y agoDon't look so far the the west, you have an example of non authoritarian monarchies in central Europe (e.g. Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth where you had a second constitution in the world, just after the US one, a parliament).
- megous 5y agoNo, let's call it Baník.
- birdyrooster 5y agoWhat are the benefit of the ethno state? Why does that benefit outweigh the costs of being an ethno state?