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You’re this close to saying the whole thing is Ukraine’s fault, right?

by steeve 5y ago

EdwardDiego 5y ago
His comment reminds me of a famous quip from David Lange about "I can smell the uranium on your breath", although in this case it's borscht and/or vodka. https://teara.govt.nz/files/32901-enz-h.mp4 https://teara.govt.nz/files/32901-enz-h.mp4
nsinenko 5y ago
- bigDinosaur 5y ago
  Even if that were true, which I doubt, who is at fault? Could it possibly be Russia for, I don't know, launching a full scale invasion? :)
- s9w 5y ago
- ddalex 5y ago
  The only truth here is that Russia invaded Ukraine, and without the invasion this destruction would not have taken place. Russia brought the war, and now are acting as "well it's your fault for resisting, why can't you just bend over and take it". This is the incovenient truth. dang, can we please ban in this account that spews propaganda ?
  - gpderetta 5y ago
    The "Why did you make me hit you" defense. edit: to be clear, I'm referring to the grandparent post.
- GlacierFox 5y ago
  Thats not a fact check. You provide no source at all. How do you get your information? Russia Today or the Telegram channels they've infiltrated?
- seba_dos1 5y ago
  It's absolutely irrelevant which side's shell ultimately reached the plane. The only thing that matters in this context is that it was destroyed during Russian unprovoked invasion.
- sofixa 5y ago
  Ukraine says the An-225 was destroyed on the 26th. And their artillery strike came on the 27th. With the fog of war, it's impossible to say with full certainty who destroyed the plane. And the whole war is the fault of Russia. In the meantime, feel free to shove the "inconvenient truth i just came up with and claim is fact being flagged" bullshit up your arse.
- nsinenko 5y ago
  - seba_dos1 5y ago
    https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
  - amcoastal 5y ago
    provides bad claim with no sources that apologizes for a dictator is refuted by multiple people using multiple sources guys its 1984 in here lmfao police your own stupidity inside your own head and we wouldnt have to do it in public
- croon 5y ago
  You made two statements contradicting all reporting made outside of Russia. There's nothing to substantiate it as truth, including your link, which says nothing of the kind.
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  There's a claim being made without sources, of course there's going to be some skepticism. Instead of going "this is LITERALLY 1984", why not provide a source yourself to back it up? You're being defensive and going ad hominem, claiming oppression and censorship instead of supporting a claim which should take ten seconds of googling. I did that, can't find a source. If you can find evidence that the Ukranians destroyed it themselves and it's being censored, then come back to this comment section. Until then, probably better for everyone's sanity to accept the limited information as true for now.

You’re this close to saying the whole thing is Ukraine’s fault, right?

by steeve 5y ago

You’re this close to saying the whole thing is Ukraine’s fault, right?

His comment reminds me of a famous quip from David Lange about "I can smell the uranium on your breath", although in this case it's borscht and/or vodka. https://teara.govt.nz/files/32901-enz-h.mp4 https://teara.govt.nz/files/32901-enz-h.mp4

nsinenko 5y ago

bigDinosaur 5y ago
Even if that were true, which I doubt, who is at fault? Could it possibly be Russia for, I don't know, launching a full scale invasion? :)
s9w 5y ago
ddalex 5y ago
The only truth here is that Russia invaded Ukraine, and without the invasion this destruction would not have taken place. Russia brought the war, and now are acting as "well it's your fault for resisting, why can't you just bend over and take it". This is the incovenient truth. dang, can we please ban in this account that spews propaganda ?
- gpderetta 5y ago
  The "Why did you make me hit you" defense. edit: to be clear, I'm referring to the grandparent post.
GlacierFox 5y ago
Thats not a fact check. You provide no source at all. How do you get your information? Russia Today or the Telegram channels they've infiltrated?
seba_dos1 5y ago
It's absolutely irrelevant which side's shell ultimately reached the plane. The only thing that matters in this context is that it was destroyed during Russian unprovoked invasion.
sofixa 5y ago
Ukraine says the An-225 was destroyed on the 26th. And their artillery strike came on the 27th. With the fog of war, it's impossible to say with full certainty who destroyed the plane. And the whole war is the fault of Russia. In the meantime, feel free to shove the "inconvenient truth i just came up with and claim is fact being flagged" bullshit up your arse.
nsinenko 5y ago
- seba_dos1 5y ago
  https://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
- amcoastal 5y ago
  provides bad claim with no sources that apologizes for a dictator is refuted by multiple people using multiple sources guys its 1984 in here lmfao police your own stupidity inside your own head and we wouldnt have to do it in public
croon 5y ago
You made two statements contradicting all reporting made outside of Russia. There's nothing to substantiate it as truth, including your link, which says nothing of the kind.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
There's a claim being made without sources, of course there's going to be some skepticism. Instead of going "this is LITERALLY 1984", why not provide a source yourself to back it up? You're being defensive and going ad hominem, claiming oppression and censorship instead of supporting a claim which should take ten seconds of googling. I did that, can't find a source. If you can find evidence that the Ukranians destroyed it themselves and it's being censored, then come back to this comment section. Until then, probably better for everyone's sanity to accept the limited information as true for now.