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Show HN: Andy Ihnatko reviews Etude (my iPad app)

21 points by dangrover 15y ago

shawnps 15y ago
Great job, Dan!
brackin 15y ago
Nice one Dan, is it the company you work for or is this the name of your company?
- dangrover 15y ago
  Previously, I built the app under my own startup. It was recently acquired by Steinway, where I now work.
  - hboon 15y ago
    What made you decide to be acquired? The compensation? More resources to achieve the vision? (I remember your app has the chance to get even bigger with more negotiation and licensing power). Something else?
    - dangrover 15y ago
      Actually, it was because of a legal snag that, unresolved, limited my ability to be acquired, take investment, or continue bootstrapping. If I had gotten the right counsel at an earlier stage (before I signed any contracts), I would have been able to go much further with it and, had I decided to sell, do so at a better valuation. I guess I shouldn't say much more than that since the matter is still ongoing. Steinway was really excited about the app and was willing to work with me despite my predicament. It's been immensely satisfying to see the vision behind the app through with commercial music, etc. They've been great to work with. But sort of a pyrrhic victory from a startup perspective! I wish I had gone with an incubator like YC or Techstars so that I had the advice/connections needed to avoid what happened. I think if I wasn't a single founder, I might have been able to. Lesson learned. Maybe next time!
georgieporgie 15y ago
Congrats! How is it working for Steinway? Not a company one typically associates with having a software division. :-)
- dangrover 15y ago
  It's been good. A software division is what we're trying to start! If you know any music hackers who might want to be a part of it, tell them we're hiring! http://etudeapp.com/jobs http://etudeapp.com/jobs
mjcohenw 15y ago
I just sent them an email asking if they support fake book format. I prefer this when playing popular songs - I can play something almost immediately instead of having to figure out someone's arrangement.
- dangrover 15y ago
  I just replied to that email. Why am I still up? I need to just repeat "9 to 5" to myself in these situations :)
mjcohenw 15y ago
Wow! I just got a response from Dan Glover (at 1205am his time) answering my question!!! He said look at the previews. I did, and, as he said, the chords are shown. Looks like I'm going to be spending money on music:)
troymc 15y ago
It's great to get such a glowing review from Andy on one of the TWiT Network's most popular shows. Longer term, I'd watch out for Tonara: they say their app can listen to what's actually being played and follow along, even if there are dozens of simultaneous notes. Scoble interviewed them recently: http://scobleizer.com/2011/09/15/tonara-an-ipad-app-for-musicians/ http://scobleizer.com/2011/09/15/tonara-an-ipad-app-for-musi...
- Gring 15y ago
  Yep, Tonara is much farther advanced. The app turning the pages automatically is a fantastic helper when playing the piano, where your hands are constantly on the keys. It really works, and works well - I'm using it constantly. Unfortunately, Tonara has a very limited store: Etude has Lady Gaga, Nora Jones, the Beatles etc. while Tonara only has classical composers. Also, Tonara doesn't allow users to add their own compositions, and they have publicly said that they will oppose against this public wish (http://getsatisfaction.com/tonara/topics/when_can_i_add_my_own_sheet_music http://getsatisfaction.com/tonara/topics/when_can_i_add_my_o...). Not a good strategy if you ask me. This is still very early in the game.

21 points by dangrover 15y ago

shawnps 15y ago

Great job, Dan!

brackin 15y ago

Nice one Dan, is it the company you work for or is this the name of your company?

dangrover 15y ago
Previously, I built the app under my own startup. It was recently acquired by Steinway, where I now work.
- hboon 15y ago
  What made you decide to be acquired? The compensation? More resources to achieve the vision? (I remember your app has the chance to get even bigger with more negotiation and licensing power). Something else?
  - dangrover 15y ago
    Actually, it was because of a legal snag that, unresolved, limited my ability to be acquired, take investment, or continue bootstrapping. If I had gotten the right counsel at an earlier stage (before I signed any contracts), I would have been able to go much further with it and, had I decided to sell, do so at a better valuation. I guess I shouldn't say much more than that since the matter is still ongoing. Steinway was really excited about the app and was willing to work with me despite my predicament. It's been immensely satisfying to see the vision behind the app through with commercial music, etc. They've been great to work with. But sort of a pyrrhic victory from a startup perspective! I wish I had gone with an incubator like YC or Techstars so that I had the advice/connections needed to avoid what happened. I think if I wasn't a single founder, I might have been able to. Lesson learned. Maybe next time!

georgieporgie 15y ago

Congrats! How is it working for Steinway? Not a company one typically associates with having a software division. :-)

dangrover 15y ago
It's been good. A software division is what we're trying to start! If you know any music hackers who might want to be a part of it, tell them we're hiring! http://etudeapp.com/jobs http://etudeapp.com/jobs

mjcohenw 15y ago

I just sent them an email asking if they support fake book format. I prefer this when playing popular songs - I can play something almost immediately instead of having to figure out someone's arrangement.

dangrover 15y ago
I just replied to that email. Why am I still up? I need to just repeat "9 to 5" to myself in these situations :)

mjcohenw 15y ago

Wow! I just got a response from Dan Glover (at 1205am his time) answering my question!!! He said look at the previews. I did, and, as he said, the chords are shown. Looks like I'm going to be spending money on music:)

troymc 15y ago

It's great to get such a glowing review from Andy on one of the TWiT Network's most popular shows. Longer term, I'd watch out for Tonara: they say their app can listen to what's actually being played and follow along, even if there are dozens of simultaneous notes. Scoble interviewed them recently: http://scobleizer.com/2011/09/15/tonara-an-ipad-app-for-musicians/ http://scobleizer.com/2011/09/15/tonara-an-ipad-app-for-musi...

Gring 15y ago
Yep, Tonara is much farther advanced. The app turning the pages automatically is a fantastic helper when playing the piano, where your hands are constantly on the keys. It really works, and works well - I'm using it constantly. Unfortunately, Tonara has a very limited store: Etude has Lady Gaga, Nora Jones, the Beatles etc. while Tonara only has classical composers. Also, Tonara doesn't allow users to add their own compositions, and they have publicly said that they will oppose against this public wish (http://getsatisfaction.com/tonara/topics/when_can_i_add_my_own_sheet_music http://getsatisfaction.com/tonara/topics/when_can_i_add_my_o...). Not a good strategy if you ask me. This is still very early in the game.