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I couldn't find a mention of Flash, canvas, HTML5 etc. so I can only assume this still uses their Flash charting. In this day and age that's really disappointin

by taitems 15y ago

I couldn't find a mention of Flash, canvas, HTML5 etc. so I can only assume this still uses their Flash charting. In this day and age that's really disappointing and short-sighted on Google's part. By not being able to view the charts (in fact, most parts of an analytics page) in an iPad or iPhone, they're forcing users to buy shotty third party apps and making other people rich.

saurik 15y ago
FWIW, you could just as easily blame Apple for your complaint. There is no a priori reason to believe that Google should go out of their way to support a single platform from a competitor that is missing a piece of functionality; and, if they were, there is no a priori reason to believe that that platform should be Apple's iPad and not Microsoft's Internet Explorer 8 (which is missing Canvas instead of Flash, a much more reasonable limitation given how often both technologies are actually used).
- taitems 15y ago
  Missing support for the canvas tag really isn't relevant when IE offers VML and others offer SVG. There are some okay cross browser charting libraries out there, Raphael etc. And then there are the absolute stunners such as Highcharts, which has been a pleasure to work with. For a technology-driven company to revamp aspects of their product whilst ignoring what is a widely held complaint, it just boggles the mind. I don't see how the decision to use Flash can be defended in this day and age, regardless of whether Metro IE10 drops support for Flash or not.
  - saurik 15y ago
    "For a technology-driven company to revamp aspects of their product whilst ignoring what is a widely held complaint, it just boggles the mind." FWIW, you could just as easily hoist Apple with that particular petard.
    - taitems 15y ago
      Apple at least pretends to be limited by technology, eg: battery life for Flash. It would take about 15 minutes to prototype it with a jQuery date selector and Highcharts supporting legacy desktop browsers and mobile devices alike. Nothing about it is remotely difficult. But if it's competition they fear (in an entirely different SBU), why not address the shortcomings that drive people to use Mint and other analytics services? I really can't believe I'm having this argument (and downvotes to boot). I've converted many Flash and Silverlight applications back to HTML5/JavaScript. I only ever really get stuck at File IO, which is irrelevant here. Maybe I should have taken that job offer at Google.
      - saurik 15y ago
        "...why not address the shortcomings that drive people to use Mint and other analytics services?" FWIW, the main selling point of Mint over Google Analytics is "up to the minute reporting" (or at least, it was, before Google "addressed" that particular shortcoming). As someone who used to find Analytics "only able to tell me stuff I wish I knew yesterday", I'm now super-excited to dive in.

by taitems 15y ago

saurik 15y ago

FWIW, you could just as easily blame Apple for your complaint. There is no a priori reason to believe that Google should go out of their way to support a single platform from a competitor that is missing a piece of functionality; and, if they were, there is no a priori reason to believe that that platform should be Apple's iPad and not Microsoft's Internet Explorer 8 (which is missing Canvas instead of Flash, a much more reasonable limitation given how often both technologies are actually used).

taitems 15y ago
Missing support for the canvas tag really isn't relevant when IE offers VML and others offer SVG. There are some okay cross browser charting libraries out there, Raphael etc. And then there are the absolute stunners such as Highcharts, which has been a pleasure to work with. For a technology-driven company to revamp aspects of their product whilst ignoring what is a widely held complaint, it just boggles the mind. I don't see how the decision to use Flash can be defended in this day and age, regardless of whether Metro IE10 drops support for Flash or not.
- saurik 15y ago
  "For a technology-driven company to revamp aspects of their product whilst ignoring what is a widely held complaint, it just boggles the mind." FWIW, you could just as easily hoist Apple with that particular petard.
  - taitems 15y ago
    Apple at least pretends to be limited by technology, eg: battery life for Flash. It would take about 15 minutes to prototype it with a jQuery date selector and Highcharts supporting legacy desktop browsers and mobile devices alike. Nothing about it is remotely difficult. But if it's competition they fear (in an entirely different SBU), why not address the shortcomings that drive people to use Mint and other analytics services? I really can't believe I'm having this argument (and downvotes to boot). I've converted many Flash and Silverlight applications back to HTML5/JavaScript. I only ever really get stuck at File IO, which is irrelevant here. Maybe I should have taken that job offer at Google.
    - saurik 15y ago
      "...why not address the shortcomings that drive people to use Mint and other analytics services?" FWIW, the main selling point of Mint over Google Analytics is "up to the minute reporting" (or at least, it was, before Google "addressed" that particular shortcoming). As someone who used to find Analytics "only able to tell me stuff I wish I knew yesterday", I'm now super-excited to dive in.