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if that mattered to you, do it DNS level

uo21tp5hoyg 5y ago
DNS based blocking isn't even close to as effective as request level blocking, most Google based tracking is all first party.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Or just use the browser because not everyone wants to muck with DNS or proxies or any of that.
veidr 5y ago
I do that, but it is certainly not anywhere near as easy as using Brave. I am skeptical of Brave, because their business model seems hand-wavy and their crypto shit seems skeezy. But right now, I can't think of anything offering better ROI for ad/tracker blocking. If you are going to tell your parents "just set up pi-hole on a cheap raspi, or spin up an LXC or Docker container to run it on your LAN, then use it for DNS" then you definitely have different parents than I do. But pretty much anybody who uses a computer can install and run Brave.
- carlivar 5y ago
  I think the crypto is quite interesting. I'm fascinated to see the sites that have opted in to receive "tips" from me in the form of their BAT token. Micropayments in lieu of ads has been a dream of many for a long time. Brave is doing that, and the crypto part seems like a rare appropriate use case.
  - veidr 5y ago
    Yeah, I am skeptical, but not totally dismissive. I would love to see those micropayments in lieu of ads work — but I have never seen a site that takes Brave tips. (Admittedly, I only use Brave for a small subset of websites.)
    - carlivar 5y ago
      tradingview.com takes them. Good site for stock quotes, data, and graphs.
- soundnote 5y ago
  How is it handwavy? They are an ad agency, and their sales pitch is an ad delivery model that respects user privacy (they download an entire country catalog in bulk and do all matching locally). The coin works such that Brave buys BAT with a percentage of their normal money ad revenue, distribute it to users who can then use that to tip content creators with Brave's tipping service. Content creators can then sell BAT for real money, and there's always someone buying, namely Brave. It's pretty much the least scammy crypto coin I've come across.
  - veidr 5y ago
    Well, just in the sense that I don't see how it is going to possibly work, without radical revision/pivot. Maybe it will, though; I am kind of rooting for them. But when I tried it, the ads Brave served were much worse than banner ads in a web page — they were super-intrusive system notifications, with ad payloads in them. I can't imagine any significant number of users ever using Brave with those ads enabled. Likewise, I have never seen a website that is willing to accept my BAT crypto, other than the one posted in this thread. Perhaps the second point (micropayments to authors) is not critical to their model, though.
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DNS based blocking isn't even close to as effective as request level blocking, most Google based tracking is all first party.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

Or just use the browser because not everyone wants to muck with DNS or proxies or any of that.

veidr 5y ago

I do that, but it is certainly not anywhere near as easy as using Brave. I am skeptical of Brave, because their business model seems hand-wavy and their crypto shit seems skeezy. But right now, I can't think of anything offering better ROI for ad/tracker blocking. If you are going to tell your parents "just set up pi-hole on a cheap raspi, or spin up an LXC or Docker container to run it on your LAN, then use it for DNS" then you definitely have different parents than I do. But pretty much anybody who uses a computer can install and run Brave.

carlivar 5y ago
I think the crypto is quite interesting. I'm fascinated to see the sites that have opted in to receive "tips" from me in the form of their BAT token. Micropayments in lieu of ads has been a dream of many for a long time. Brave is doing that, and the crypto part seems like a rare appropriate use case.
- veidr 5y ago
  Yeah, I am skeptical, but not totally dismissive. I would love to see those micropayments in lieu of ads work — but I have never seen a site that takes Brave tips. (Admittedly, I only use Brave for a small subset of websites.)
  - carlivar 5y ago
    tradingview.com takes them. Good site for stock quotes, data, and graphs.
soundnote 5y ago
How is it handwavy? They are an ad agency, and their sales pitch is an ad delivery model that respects user privacy (they download an entire country catalog in bulk and do all matching locally). The coin works such that Brave buys BAT with a percentage of their normal money ad revenue, distribute it to users who can then use that to tip content creators with Brave's tipping service. Content creators can then sell BAT for real money, and there's always someone buying, namely Brave. It's pretty much the least scammy crypto coin I've come across.
- veidr 5y ago
  Well, just in the sense that I don't see how it is going to possibly work, without radical revision/pivot. Maybe it will, though; I am kind of rooting for them. But when I tried it, the ads Brave served were much worse than banner ads in a web page — they were super-intrusive system notifications, with ad payloads in them. I can't imagine any significant number of users ever using Brave with those ads enabled. Likewise, I have never seen a website that is willing to accept my BAT crypto, other than the one posted in this thread. Perhaps the second point (micropayments to authors) is not critical to their model, though.
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