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Only you very rational geopolitics experts who understand power politics understand anything that's going on right? Everyone else is just too hopey feely and no

by sidibe 5y ago

Only you very rational geopolitics experts who understand power politics understand anything that's going on right? Everyone else is just too hopey feely and not paying attention to the framework you have set up. If you look up from your theories, Russia's supposedly mighty military is struggling badly and Ukrainians don't appear to subscribe to your framework that doesn't give them any agency. It's a tragedy maybe it would be better if they just rolled over and let Russia control their politics but they don't want to

mjburgess 5y ago
Sure, and the cost of this line of thinking will be thousands and thousands more dead. What you're saying here is that your stories are more important than lives. Look, it's in our interests for ukrainians to die and keep russia bogged down. If I were on "our side", i'd be saying, yes -- keep them in the war for as long as possible. Let russia get bogged down here for years! But I'm inclined to actually keep Ukrainians alive. Its clearly too late for that. The west has set itself the task of regime change in russia, and ukraine is going to be our foolish attempt to trap russia. It won't work. Russia's miltary isnt struggling. It's playing with its hands tied behind its back. It can, and will, level ukraine. Its been trying to offer them a route to surrender with minimal casualities. The west is trying its hardest to keep them in the war. Within the month ukraine will be rubble.
- sidibe 5y ago
  I'm not saying Ukraine should or shouldn't fight. I'm not the one talking about stories I'm just observing what's actually happening and that's the Ukrainians are fighting. I think your worldview is a relic where everyone only acts the way the USA or Russia wants them to. That isn't the case, and it's hardly surprising Ukrainians want to get out of Russia's orbit and into the EU even without their puppet masters in the West forcing them to think like that.

by sidibe 5y ago

mjburgess 5y ago

Sure, and the cost of this line of thinking will be thousands and thousands more dead. What you're saying here is that your stories are more important than lives. Look, it's in our interests for ukrainians to die and keep russia bogged down. If I were on "our side", i'd be saying, yes -- keep them in the war for as long as possible. Let russia get bogged down here for years! But I'm inclined to actually keep Ukrainians alive. Its clearly too late for that. The west has set itself the task of regime change in russia, and ukraine is going to be our foolish attempt to trap russia. It won't work. Russia's miltary isnt struggling. It's playing with its hands tied behind its back. It can, and will, level ukraine. Its been trying to offer them a route to surrender with minimal casualities. The west is trying its hardest to keep them in the war. Within the month ukraine will be rubble.

sidibe 5y ago
I'm not saying Ukraine should or shouldn't fight. I'm not the one talking about stories I'm just observing what's actually happening and that's the Ukrainians are fighting. I think your worldview is a relic where everyone only acts the way the USA or Russia wants them to. That isn't the case, and it's hardly surprising Ukrainians want to get out of Russia's orbit and into the EU even without their puppet masters in the West forcing them to think like that.