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In world progressively more and more fractured thanx to rather successful psy-ops by Kremlin and similar dictatorships (plus let's not forget Trump helped a bit

In world progressively more and more fractured thanx to rather successful psy-ops by Kremlin and similar dictatorships (plus let's not forget Trump helped a bit in this)... its so heartwarming to see a lot of humanity joining efforts and trying to help for a good cause. They say society is (among others) defined by a common enemy, and well Mr P fits the role perfectly. Europe wasn't this united since fall of iron curtain (again Russia, there seems to be some sort of pattern here). The official news from Russia seems like from alternate universe, so surreal. They were always like that, but now its dialed to 11 and a bit more. Proposal from murderer and politician Andrej Lugovoj for forced military service in Donbas for any protesting. Very russian approach...

mempko 5y ago
Their reality really is different. But we should be careful to recognize we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story. The truth is some combined version of both realities and the hidden untold realities of people living on both sides of the conflict. What's happening now isn't as simple as Russia bad, Ukraine and West good. That's a story told to children.
- justin66 5y ago
  > we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story You're clearly bad at quantifying this stuff, and you're also trivializing the problems of a society and a press where journalists are routinely assassinated for reporting truthfully about their government. If you look at a list like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_... and think "oh yeah, just like the United States" you are very, very confused about what is going on in the world.
- criddell 5y ago
  What are some positive aspects of Russia invading Ukraine?
  - mempko 5y ago
    None for Ukrainians. A lot for merchants of death. Example, Germany is increasing it's military budget by 3x. Who will they buy from?

mempko 5y ago

Their reality really is different. But we should be careful to recognize we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story. The truth is some combined version of both realities and the hidden untold realities of people living on both sides of the conflict. What's happening now isn't as simple as Russia bad, Ukraine and West good. That's a story told to children.

justin66 5y ago
> we are subjected to just as much propaganda as they are that just tells a different story You're clearly bad at quantifying this stuff, and you're also trivializing the problems of a society and a press where journalists are routinely assassinated for reporting truthfully about their government. If you look at a list like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_... and think "oh yeah, just like the United States" you are very, very confused about what is going on in the world.
criddell 5y ago
What are some positive aspects of Russia invading Ukraine?
- mempko 5y ago
  None for Ukrainians. A lot for merchants of death. Example, Germany is increasing it's military budget by 3x. Who will they buy from?