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> "Fairness, to the privileged, can look like persecution." Given the history of anti-Asian racism in the US, I don't know how anyone can say with a straight f

> "Fairness, to the privileged, can look like persecution." Given the history of anti-Asian racism in the US, I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that Asians are "privileged". As for "parents are more interested in boosting their children scholastically", this being HN, few here will see that as anything other than an absolutely good thing that we should want all parents, regardless of color, gender, creed, or anything else, to be doing.

redwall_hp 5y ago
The Chinese Exclusion/Geary acts weren't even repealed until the 1940s, when they "generously" allowed ~100 to immigrate per year. It prevented naturalization on grounds of ethnicity, prevented extant residents from coming back if they left, and restricted land ownership. Then there was that whole Japanese internment camp and mass land seizure thing too. (Check out how much California farm land is worth now: it was a generational theft on a massive scale.) The earlier half of the 20th century was an awful time to be asian in America, and the systematic suppression of generational wealth for purely racial reasons is not an effect that just goes away overnight.
ashwagary 5y ago
Compared to the black native population, Asians are extremely privileged. This is not a controversial statement. Black Americans fought for Asian's rights to immigrate to the US and once they arrived, Asians were turned into a buffer class because they mostly had no interest in fighting the global system of white supremacy (partially due to ignorance). This made them less of a threat to the ruling class and dominant society. This game is still being played (even in this thread) and many recent non-white immigrants are still too ignorant of unsanitized/heterodox US history to understand why native blacks fought & died for them to come here in the first place. US mainstream historical propaganda - 1 Native black Americans - 0
JoeAltmaier 5y ago
Certainly true. And its the very point - not everybody helps their children. Asian parents by-and-large do. ANd certainly the school system favors their children. That's the premise we started with. The children are doing well because their parents are helping them. Then fudged the rules so their children got the lions share of attention and programs. Those without parents that helps them (culturally, economically) do poorly. Through no fault of their own (being born to the wrong parents?) Try to help all the children, and the cry of "Reverse racism!" or some such nonsense gets raised every time.

redwall_hp 5y ago

The Chinese Exclusion/Geary acts weren't even repealed until the 1940s, when they "generously" allowed ~100 to immigrate per year. It prevented naturalization on grounds of ethnicity, prevented extant residents from coming back if they left, and restricted land ownership. Then there was that whole Japanese internment camp and mass land seizure thing too. (Check out how much California farm land is worth now: it was a generational theft on a massive scale.) The earlier half of the 20th century was an awful time to be asian in America, and the systematic suppression of generational wealth for purely racial reasons is not an effect that just goes away overnight.

ashwagary 5y ago

Compared to the black native population, Asians are extremely privileged. This is not a controversial statement. Black Americans fought for Asian's rights to immigrate to the US and once they arrived, Asians were turned into a buffer class because they mostly had no interest in fighting the global system of white supremacy (partially due to ignorance). This made them less of a threat to the ruling class and dominant society. This game is still being played (even in this thread) and many recent non-white immigrants are still too ignorant of unsanitized/heterodox US history to understand why native blacks fought & died for them to come here in the first place. US mainstream historical propaganda - 1 Native black Americans - 0

JoeAltmaier 5y ago

Certainly true. And its the very point - not everybody helps their children. Asian parents by-and-large do. ANd certainly the school system favors their children. That's the premise we started with. The children are doing well because their parents are helping them. Then fudged the rules so their children got the lions share of attention and programs. Those without parents that helps them (culturally, economically) do poorly. Through no fault of their own (being born to the wrong parents?) Try to help all the children, and the cry of "Reverse racism!" or some such nonsense gets raised every time.